The war on cops, another chapter

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tracecom

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Step 1. Standardize the curriculum.
Step 2. Supply funding for those who use the curriculum.
Step 3. Wait a year.
Step 4. Threaten to cut off funding for those who deviate from the curriculum or don't meet the standards.

It worked for No Child Left Behind; it will work for police training.
 

nsaspook

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I hope your right. I have a vision of another Texas biker shootout.
My crystal ball is foggy but I don't like the sound of these words from any police official.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/17/politics/cleveland-police-baton-rouge-security-open-carry/index.html
"We are sending a letter to Gov. Kasich requesting assistance from him. He could very easily do some kind of executive order or something -- I don't care if it's constitutional or not at this point," Stephen Loomis, president of Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association, told CNN.
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Kasich, responding to the request, said: "Ohio governors do not have the power to arbitrarily suspend federal and state constitutional rights or state laws as suggested."
 

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I don't care if it's constitutional or not at this point," Stephen Loomis, president of Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association, told CNN.

That's what the protests are about in the first place, the unconstitutional behavior of police officers, so it's time to, "double down on stupid" again.
Where this will lead is entirely predictable.
 

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wayneh

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There is no credible source stating any federal control being demanded.
"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
(Senator) Barack Obama
 

ronv

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@ronv

Is Sowell not black enough for you that you have to call him an Uncle Tom?
Seems black enough to me.
I call him an uncle tome because based on his columns he fits the definition.
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Uncle Tom
A black man who will do anything to stay in good standing with "the white man" including betray his own people
I don't think he made his money selling his stuff to black people.
I don't have to either agree or disagree with him to see what he is.
Here is a PBS show based on a book written by Thomas Sowell's friend, who he met at UCLA when Thomas was a visiting professor in 1969. He is Walter E Williams.

Nice video.
I heard him make two recommendations:
School vouchers and remove the minimum wage for kids.
15.3% of 16-19 yr. olds are at or below minimum wage
9.4% of 16 - 24 yr. olds are at or below minimum wage.
Since unemployment is pretty high for the 20 24 yr. age group (about 2X the average) I'm not convince it's a good idea to give those jobs to kids that are probably still living at home. Come to think of it, it's been years since I saw a kid out pushing the mower around the yard. :D
I think the minimum wage for kids (<20) is 4.25 an hour.

I don't see anything wrong with vouchers if you can figure out a way to manage it.
But don't ask me to pay for your kid to go to private school and relive you from all taxes to pay for public school.
Make the voucher cover the entire expense and get rid of public schools and we can talk.
But deep down inside I think the problem is with parents on or off of welfare. :(
 

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wayneh

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You can choose to ignore reality all you want. In fact that's a key tactic of Alinsky followers, to stay off the radar until it's too late for your opponent to counter. What could possibly make you think that a national police force is not a long range goal for these types? So called "progressives" and statists always head in that direction and they're not secretive about it.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...eils-plan-to-further-nationalize-local-police
 

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wayneh

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Here is a PBS show based on a book written by Thomas Sowell's friend, who he met at UCLA when Thomas was a visiting professor in 1969. He is Walter E Williams
I'm been impressed with his work and that video is no exception. It's hard to watch that video because so little has changed for the better in 30 years since then. I don't know how he keeps going. When you get something right and nobody listens or does anything...
 

nsaspook

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Uncle Tom
A black man who will do anything to stay in good standing with "the white man" including betray his own people
Don Lemon (not a conservative by any means) understands exactly how the 'Uncle Tom' label is used by bigots of all colors.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-don-lemon-i-get-called-uncle-tom-if-i-dont-push-a-certain-narrative/
Lemon argued that he’s just tired of having to qualify any comments about the black community by saying first that racism is obviously bad. He said that as a black man, “if I don’t carry a certain narrative” that liberally-minded black people have come to expect, then he gets called names like Uncle Tom.
 
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JoeJester

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I don't think he made his money selling his stuff to black people.
So an educated black man who sells his services to whitey is an Uncle Tom. A harvard education in economics and you relegate him to being Uncle Tom. Nice.

A former marine ... PHD from the university of Chicago.

I'd say Thomas Sowell done well for himself.
 

JoeJester

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I've first read Walter Williams opines in the 1980s when I was in NYC.

@ronv

Walter showed that since the institution of the minimum wage, young black men's employment chanced dwindled as employers, like that black employer, couldn't afford to risk that money on an untrained individual.

Do you tip 30 percent for poor service? The waiters and waitress' make less than the minimum wage.
 

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3 AM on the network news: "Baton Rouge police have no idea what the shooters motive was. His home in Kansas City has been searched and the police are still trying to figure out why."

Right. Because nothing has been happening in Baton Rouge lately.
Are the police that oblivious?
Are they so convinced that they are completely innocent that they have no clue why anybody would disagree?
Or is this just the mainstream media doing their usual snow job?
 

ronv

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So an educated black man who sells his services to whitey is an Uncle Tom. A harvard education in economics and you relegate him to being Uncle Tom. Nice.

A former marine ... PHD from the university of Chicago.

I'd say Thomas Sowell done well for himself.
Well, you can read the definition and you say he has sold his stuff to whitey, so yep, I think it fits. :rolleyes:
It's not that everything he says is wrong, it's just the fact that he is making his money mostly on the backs of his brothers. He does nothing to help them do better.:(
 

ronv

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@JoeJester

Walter showed that since the institution of the minimum wage, young black men's employment chanced dwindled as employers, like that black employer, couldn't afford to risk that money on an untrained individual.
That may have been true back in 1980, but today that job most likely would come out of the 20 to 24 age group. See previous post.
There is a 0.5% difference in 16 to 19 year olds making at or below minimum wage between white and black.
Where there is a big difference is education.

Do you tip 30 percent for poor service? The waiters and waitress' make less than the minimum wage.
I'll use my own club as a reference. The bussers and dish washers are almost all in the 16 to 20 age group, while the servers are older. I think there is a reason for that.
I go out of my way to tip a good busser. One with a good attitude and good service - they bring your drinks - very important.:D
 

ronv

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JoeJester

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from Wiki
Uncle Tom is the title character of Harriet Beecher Stowe's 1852 novel, Uncle Tom's Cabin. It has subsequently become an epithet for a person who is slavish and excessively subservient to perceived authority figures, particularly a black or brown person who behaves in a subservient manner to white people; or any person perceived to be complicit in the oppression of their own group.
from Urban Dictionary
A black man who will do anything to stay in good standing with "the white man" including betray his own people

Leroy is such an Uncle Tom; he told the boss I took a 2 hour lunch; I had to go see my baby momma

by Kimdiggity June 10, 2003
from the root
How did a term of high praise become the ultimate black-on-black insult? Until recently, scholars believed that “Uncle Tom” was first used as an epithet in 1919 by Rev. George Alexander McGuire, a supporter of the radical black nationalist Marcus Garvey.

Addressing the first convention of the Universal Negro Improvement Association, McGuire declared, “the Uncle Tom nigger has got to go, and his place must be taken by the new leader of the Negro race … not a black man with a white heart, but a black man with a black heart.” In the event’s opening parade, marchers held protest signs that hopefully proclaimed, “Uncle Tom’s dead and buried.”
and lastly

from dictionary.com
1. a black person, especially a man, considered by other black people to be subservient to or to curry favor with white people.
2. a person who exhibits overly deferential behavior.
The urban dictionary illustrates not an uncle tom but someone who "ratted" out another, not a subservient.

Calling him an Uncle Tom because he shares an idea that is not consistent with the likes of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson (two race pimps in my opinion) is not in the spirit of Martin Luther King Jr's "judging by the content of their character." A few years back, a black conservative was running for mayor of DC. He lost. I guess his message wasn't the one the voters wanted to hear.
 

ronv

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Sowell, like you, writes his OPINE. He is not a reporter. Big difference.
It's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. :D
When he starts offering up solutions I may change my mind. Anyone can offer complaints - witness this thread. But what we need are solutions. Even ideas would be refreshing.:rolleyes:
 
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