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the big bang
- Thread starter bradstormer
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why does the big bang theory depend so much on the higgs bosson? if i understand correctly the higgs field is what gives everything mass, and the higgs particle is like a wringle in the higgs field which presents itself as a particle, so what would it mean if we couldnt find it?
thatoneguy
- Joined Feb 19, 2009
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The expanding matter would conduct sound, but only within that cloud. Since EVERTYHING was in that cloud, and nothing existed outside of it, it would have been a huge "Bang" for those around.
It's still "echoing", though the sound has shifted into Gigahertz range, See the background radiation link above.
If we accept the speed of light as an absolutely limiting velocity, it happens that there was an awkward moment right after the BB. In order for the universe to have reached its present size and not be completely homogeneous, there had to be a time when expansion from the point of the BB had to take place at velocities greater than light speed.
The Higgs particle is supposed to have a state in which it can affect mass such that it was possible for the "inflationary period" to have let the universe expand past the point of uniformity - http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/astro/planck.html
As to the particle - http://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae304.cfm
bradstormer, it would prove that the higgs field exists.
There is no other field which doesn't have a carrier particle discovered for it yet. So if the Higgs Boson is never discovered then something ELSE is occurring not the Higgs Field, which is pretty much the major backbone of cosmological theory right now, until it's actually proven to exist current theory is nothing more than speculation.
Being able to find it or whatever is is responsible will help come up with a true unified theory and we simply don't have that yet.
shortbus, you're thinking a common place explosion, the 'big bang' was far more fundamental at it's core, in the very few first moments the laws of the universe as we know they exist right now did not exist, a totally different subset of laws dominated due to the energy density. It's those few few moments that currently can't be figured because of our lack of understanding things with that high of an energy density.
There is no other field which doesn't have a carrier particle discovered for it yet. So if the Higgs Boson is never discovered then something ELSE is occurring not the Higgs Field, which is pretty much the major backbone of cosmological theory right now, until it's actually proven to exist current theory is nothing more than speculation.
Being able to find it or whatever is is responsible will help come up with a true unified theory and we simply don't have that yet.
shortbus, you're thinking a common place explosion, the 'big bang' was far more fundamental at it's core, in the very few first moments the laws of the universe as we know they exist right now did not exist, a totally different subset of laws dominated due to the energy density. It's those few few moments that currently can't be figured because of our lack of understanding things with that high of an energy density.
For us, we are sure energy cannot be created...but even for energy to change there should be something that energy came from in the first place.
Like for example, light. Light is also energy. But where did that energy came from.
So I must say it came from nothing, so is the BB. It was done this way for us to find out and be fascinated by it and wonder the powers of the creator who did it. Somethings are not for us to know, it is better this way. Like creating a black hole. It cannot be done. It's powers are beyond human control. For us everything takes time to happen but you guys never wonder there are things much faster than any human technology can measure.
The BB holds a lot of knowledge. Can any one atleast give a comparison to the amount of knowledge tht really is there for us to find out
Like for example, light. Light is also energy. But where did that energy came from.
So I must say it came from nothing, so is the BB. It was done this way for us to find out and be fascinated by it and wonder the powers of the creator who did it. Somethings are not for us to know, it is better this way. Like creating a black hole. It cannot be done. It's powers are beyond human control. For us everything takes time to happen but you guys never wonder there are things much faster than any human technology can measure.
The BB holds a lot of knowledge. Can any one atleast give a comparison to the amount of knowledge tht really is there for us to find out
Let me give u a hint..
say u dip a needle in to the ocean and take it out. Try to notice the drop that clings on to the tip of the needle. You can see a drop if ur eyes are good.
Now think that is the actual amount of knowledge man will ever know, if, and only if, the amount of knowledge in the universe is the same amount that is equal to the world's oceans combined.
Now that is an eye opener
I think he gets them from Loosewire.
who says I'm young.!
I'm an old timer now....at 36 I am getting white hair.I don't do drugs, don't drink
. Am into cut throat politics. I rarely go into fights tht occur between cops and political gangbusters. And I am nocturnal. But what more I Like is to annoy CEO's and humiliate wannabe techs here. Can't seem to get enuf of it.
That just means your a young gadfly. This is not an insult, but it is a slang phrase for what you just described. Like a fly who likes to bit the horses rear and stir him up.
You can be both young and a firebrand. It does sound like you are lucky to be in a country with nominal freedoms, in many other places you would be harassed or disappear.
You can be both young and a firebrand. It does sound like you are lucky to be in a country with nominal freedoms, in many other places you would be harassed or disappear.
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