they call it a watch for a reason. with all the hi tech now..........maybe they have done away with lookouts.

 

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/iran-missile-strike-missed/2017/06/19/id/796964/

 

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/iran-missile-strike-missed/2017/06/19/id/796964/

Hard to tell who to believe. They seemed to know where some of them would land.

 

Hard to tell who to believe. They seemed to know where some of them would land.

Iran is maybe only second to Israel in homegrown missile technology in the ME.
https://www.armed-services.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Syring_04-13-16.pdf

Iran has successfully orbited satellites and announced plans to orbit a larger satellite using a space launch vehicle (the Simorgh) that could be capable of intercontinental ballistic missile ranges if configured as such. Iran also has steadily increased its ballistic missile force, deploying next-generation short- and medium-range ballistic missiles (SRBMs and MRBMs) with increasing accuracy and new submunition payloads. Tehran’s overall defense strategy relies on a substantial inventory of theater ballistic missiles capable of striking targets in southeastern Europe and the Middle East, including Israel. Iran continues to develop more sophisticated missiles and improve the range and accuracy of current missile systems, and it has publicly demonstrated the ability to launch simultaneous salvos of multiple rockets and missiles. Demonstrating it is capable of modifying currently deployed ballistic missile systems, Iran has flight-tested a Fateh- 110 ballistic missile in an anti-ship role. By adding a seeker to improve the missile’s accuracy against sea-based targets, Iran could threaten maritime activity throughout the Persian Gulf and Strait of Hormuz.

 

nsaspook......what's the latest on the collision? what have you heard?

 

Third mate Auto had the deck and con on the freighter. This might be an omen for when Auto get's their drivers license in mass numbers.

There is a reason for the damage below the water line.

on edit: clarified above statement and added the track line.

Interesting track line. Was third mate Auto compromised?

 

you can clearly see the collision.....the right angle.....the Auto did a hard right(starboard)......then look how the AUTO brought the ship back on course. after the crew gains control of Auto....they go back for a look.
so does this mean the warship was hit from the stern direction.......not the bow. the tanker made hard right after collision.
am I reading that right?

 

must have been in the blind spot

 

nsaspook......what's the latest on the collision? what have you heard?

Lots of rumors that all seem to point to a bizarre set of events. It might see strange but large very close contacts on radar are very hard to track for speed, distance and closing angle.

A popular theory that gives the USS Fitzgerald a possible excuse for the crash. It's still very unlikely to stop the CO from driving a desk for awhile.
If the USS Fitzgerald was at a very slow speed just lolling while the crew slept with a normal night crew the Captain usually leaves orders to be alerted if a contact gets too close (1 mile) but in a busy shipping lane contacts could be backed up in strings for miles into a busy port so sometime things can get a little tight but the big ships usually stay on track. If the Crystal for some reason made a sharp turn to avoid something detected at about 18k and the USS Fitzgerald just happened to be nearby it would take a bit to notice on the USS Fitzgerald that one contact was on a closing track for a collision if they saw it as a threat on radar before it was too late to react.

I've never been on that type of ship but I have been on similar older vessels with GE DFM turbine engines, it takes a while to spool those idling jets up to turn the screws and move from a slow speed or dead stop.

 

must have been in the blind spot

or somebody was in the stupid spot. My ex-CO (Rodgers) while skipper of the Kitty Hawk hit and ran-over a Soviet nuke sub that surfaced in front of the carrier during a 'war' game off the coast of Korea.

https://www.navalhistory.org/2011/03/21/soviet-sub-collides-with-uss-kitty-hawk-21-march-1984

The submarine was believed to be a Victor-I class attack boat, tentatively identified as K-314 (610). During the exercise it had been tracked and “killed” more than fifteen times after it was spotted on the surface fifty miles in front of the battle group.

 

from: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40314128
Marine traffic records suggest the ACX Crystal made a sudden U-turn roughly 25 minutes before the collision with the USS Fitzgerald. It is not clear why it changed course.

Also from the BBC link ...

The discrepancies noted is causing the speculation to rise on the internet.

So there are four investigations, according to ABC news.

 

Also from the BBC link ...

The discrepancies noted is causing the speculation to rise on the internet.

So there are four investigations, according to ABC news.

How suddenly can a monster that size and that long turn so as to catch the other vessel unawares?

 

How suddenly can a monster that size and that long turn so as to catch the other vessel unawares?

The investigations will reveal that answer. However, you can catch anyone who is stopped. If you go with the interpretation of the track line that the hard starboard turn was the accident and it took an hour for the tanker to do that U turn and return to the scene. In that hour, the Fritz was in full damage control. The distance between the cape SE of the last letter in that town's name and the named island is approximately 18 miles according to Google Earth.

 

http://fox8.com/2017/06/19/he-died-...final-moments-after-uss-fitzgerald-collision/

 

damn......sorry to hear they had to close a hatch on sailors.

 

damn......sorry to hear they had to close a hatch on sailors.

Damn sad. The guy was three months away from a possible military retirement.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/navy-s...-himself-chose-to-save-his-kids-or-die-trying

The most senior of the seven, Gary Rehm, had his own particular word for these brothers/shipmates.

“The sailors on the ship he called his kids,” his uncle Stanley Rehm Jr. told The Daily Beast. “He called them his kids.”

And, by various accounts, Gary Rehm had saved at least 20 of them after the collision. He then went down to save more.

“He said, ‘If my kids die, I’m going to die,’” the uncle said.

Gary Rehm perished with the six others.

“He could have walked away and been safe,” the uncle noted.

RIP Gary

 

RIP Gary. You saved as many as you could.

 

RIP, Gary.

kv

 

The poor man has died.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/20/health/otto-warmbier-autopsy/index.html

What some people were saying about him a year ago.
http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=salon+this+might+be+America's+biggest+idiot+frat+boy&d=4572333683312227&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=MmbSiAEIPzcfQbAojQrXNyjpJqaWAKJ-

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/la-sha/on-the-revocation-of-whit_b_9531122.html

Did he "deserve" to die? No, but if you stand in front of a freight train you will be run over.

 

The poor man has died.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/20/health/otto-warmbier-autopsy/index.html

What some people were saying about him a year ago.
http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=salon+this+might+be+America's+biggest+idiot+frat+boy&d=4572333683312227&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=MmbSiAEIPzcfQbAojQrXNyjpJqaWAKJ-

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/la-sha/on-the-revocation-of-whit_b_9531122.html

Did he "deserve" to die? No, but if you stand in front of a freight train you will be run over.

I'm guessing the word "compassion" does not exist in the North Korean vocabulary...