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96y

Joined May 8, 2019
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When starting a 4 litre 6 cylinder gas engine..using math, how long will an 80 farad supercap array deliver
sufficient volts(above 12.4) before it falls below that??The caps would start at 13 v and deliver up to 250 amps..??
 

oz93666

Joined Sep 7, 2010
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Energy stored in a cap is 1/2 x C x V x V

@ 13 V ................... = 1/2 x 80 x 13 x 13 = 6760 J

@ 12.4 ..................= 1/2 x 80 x 12.4 x 12.4 = 6150 J

You have to subtract one figure from the other to get 610 Joules .... this is the energy released when discharged from 13 to 12,4 ....

@ 250 Amps and 12.7 V energy is consumed at the rate of 250 x 12.7 = 3175 Joules per second

So the cap alone would only crank the engine for less than 0.2 secs !!!

In practice the battery is usually helping , and cranking still occurs down to about 10 V releasing more energy from the cap.
 

crutschow

Joined Mar 14, 2008
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The cap voltage drop is ΔV= (i*t)/C so for a 0.6V drop the time is:
t = ΔV*C/i = 0.6V*80F/250A = 0.192 sec
(as oz93666 calculated above using energy).

If you allow it to drop to 10V, then the time would be:
3V*80F/250A = 0.96 sec.
 

oz93666

Joined Sep 7, 2010
742
The cap voltage drop is ΔV= (i*t)/C so for a 0.6V drop the time is:
t = ΔV*C/i = 0.6V*80F/250A = 0.192 sec
(as oz93666 calculated above using energy).

If you allow it to drop to 10V, then the time would be:
3V*80F/250A = 0.96 sec.
That seems a lot simpler your way , crutschow ... I'm just trying to get my head around how you did it!
 
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