Solenoid engine..arc on contacts

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DrewStupid

Joined Nov 28, 2018
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How do i reduce the arc on the contacts ? I built a 2 cylinder engine and works perfectly until the contacts build up to much arc.
 

drc_567

Joined Dec 29, 2008
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... As the points open up, the current flow, coming from the coil primary circuit, is abruptly terminated or stopped. The rapid change in primary side current flow ... through the ignition coil ... is somewhat like bringing a fast moving vehicle to an emergency stop. A lot of dynamic energy due to the established current flow, has to go someplace ... some of the energy is able to dissipate by creating a spark on the secondary side of the ignition coil. However, there is also a fraction of that dynamic energy which creates arcing at the points as they open up. The arc consists of high frequencies, rather than the original smooth current flow. These high frequency current components will pass through an automotive capacitance, usually referred to as a condenser, if the capacitor is connected between one side of the points mechanism and a good chassis ground. The only thing to be careful about is connecting one end of the capacitor between the ignition coil side of the points and the other end to chassis ground. The ground side typically requires a clamp of some sort ... a small hose clamp and a length of wire, going to a ground bolt should work. Be sure to use an automotive grade capacitor/condenser, since they can withstand the 500 volts typically encountered as the points open. Make sure no oil or grease is on any of the parts or you won't have good electrical conductivity ... a can of electrical contact cleaner spray might be a good investment.
 

Sensacell

Joined Jun 19, 2012
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If I understand your very vague question...

You have a motor that has electric solenoids attracting slugs of steel as "pistons"
There are contacts that get closed and opened by the crankshaft, these contacts are arcing.

Is that correct?
 

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DrewStupid

Joined Nov 28, 2018
64
If I understand your very vague question...

You have a motor that has electric solenoids attracting slugs of steel as "pistons"
There are contacts that get closed and opened by the crankshaft, these contacts are arcing.

Is that correct?
You are 100% correct !
 

Alec_t

Joined Sep 17, 2013
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Connecting a capacitor across the contacts will reduce the arcing.
 

drc_567

Joined Dec 29, 2008
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... a reverse biased diode placed across the coil should work, but the 1N400x datasheet shows that the Maximum Recurrent Peak Reverse Voltage of that diode changes with the diode load current designation. You would have to get at least the 4 amp 1N4004 diode to get 400 volts reverse voltage protection, or better the 5 Amp 1N4005 to get 600 reverse volts as specified by the datasheet.
 
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