simulating flactuating load in bjt voltage regulator

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yef smith

Joined Aug 2, 2020
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Currently the current in pnp is about 3 mA
Which far below what is can produce .
10-50mA regulation would be good .
How do you reccomend to get the regulation better ?
Thanks .
 

crutschow

Joined Mar 14, 2008
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Hello Crutshow, Could you say what BIASING state should the NPN be in so the regulator function properly?
R1 needs to have a value which will supply base current to Q1 for its minimum spec'd gain (beta) and maximum output load current, and at least 1mA to U1, both for the minimum input voltage and the maximum desired output voltage.
The R1 value I choose gives well above that minimum requirement, since it is supplying about 2.5mA for both Q1 and U1.

The feedback from the output causes U1 to sink any current that Q1 doesn't need/use to maintain the desired output voltage and current.
U1 starts conducting when the Ref voltage at the junction of voltage divider R4 and R5 reaches 1.24V (2.0V at the output).

Of course the simplest circuit for your requirements would be the common LM317 programmable regulator (below):

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yef smith

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Hello ,purely out of analog curiosity of the previos circuit.
As you can see in the as my load increases my regulation get worse.
How can I improve the regulation in this circuit?
What is the analog intuition behind the faulre to regulate?
Thanks.
 

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crutschow

Joined Mar 14, 2008
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What is the analog intuition behind the faulre to regulate?
The poor regulation is because the design has low feedback loop gain.

What is the supposed purpose of R5, as it's not needed, and greatly reduces that loop gain?
Replace it with a short.
The only information of interest from the PNP data sheet its current-gain (β) at the output load current.

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