Simple in-line power conditioner?

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Daniel McMath

Joined Dec 28, 2015
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I believe his power is continuous, but there's noise on the line.

He lives in downtown Annapolis, where they still have most of the original electrical distribution network. He's living in a townhouse that was built before the Civil War. I don't know that he has a modern 3-prong grounded circuit in the house. For all I know, he's running knob and tube wiring still.

Is there any way to duplicate that in a test environment? I mean, without spending $$$$ on a signal generator?
 
Got it.

Do you have an RFI (e.g. Corcom) filter on your gizmo?

In a work environment where a UPS wasn't necessary I used one in the series of these power conditioners https://www.ebay.com/p/ONEAC-CP1105...ditioner-4-Outlet/1034213352?iid=122799903354 and an ISOBAR outlet strip,
the ISOBAR fro the warranty on protected equipment.

ONEAC is now PowerVar. I saw a live demo and I was hooked. I had a lot of equipment connected to this and a Mac Centris 650 ran 17 years with only a floppy failure and cleaning out dust. The hard drive even lasted that long.

I even have one of their gizmos http://www.gryphon-inc.com/Spec Sheets/Power Monitoring/917010A - ONEView.pdf that can look at the power line with an oscilloscope, but never tried it.

So, three pieces of equipment eventually got this protection.

At home I had two issues and I happened to throw the right-stuff at it.
1. Noise AM radio and wall wart. I used a real commercial linear regulator for power.
2. Killing of X-10 modules. Put an expensive; $80.00 USD power line fllter at the furnace. Added a transorb to the 24 VAC supply.
 

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Daniel McMath

Joined Dec 28, 2015
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Do you have an RFI (e.g. Corcom) filter on your gizmo?
I don't, no. I'm having my friend try one more test of input power before I buy any more stuff, but that looks like a good idea to try.

Does the ISOBAR power strip smooth the input power at all? Or is it more for covering significant power spikes and surges and what-not?

Nominally, I'd like to incorporate any necessary power conditioning on the board, if at all possible. Adding in $80 external components seems like a painful solution to me.
 

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Daniel McMath

Joined Dec 28, 2015
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Update: It looks like there may be an issue with the 24VDC power supply. Specifically, and this is interesting: Meanwell GSM40 power supplies work. Meanwell GSM60 power supplies do not. The GSM60 provides 2A, while the GSM40 is limited to 1.6A. Aside from that, they should be identical. I have no idea why a power supply with a higher limit would fail, and the lower limit power supply would work great.

I'll try to get some o-scope scans of both power supplies, in situ, and will post in a bit. At this point, it's just for curiosity and my own edification. I'd love to understand why this fails.
 

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Daniel McMath

Joined Dec 28, 2015
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Following up on this: I plugged in the o-scope and set up a row of power supplies that had failed back in December.

Ready for this?

Everything worked.

I swapped back and forth, double-checked the readings, but it was just as good with the "bad" power supplies as it was with the good. I'm baffled.

Going forward, board designs will all have a few more capacitors on them, as recommended here, and I'll be sure to use the power supply that I believe works best in more situations. But ... I don't know why some power supplies sometimes work better than others. Not really a question, just a statement.

Thanks again for all the info. :)
 
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