Serious Speakers!

MrSalts

Joined Apr 2, 2020
2,767
Are you trolling me?
As I previously stated, I mean speakers that disappear in the room, i.e. you can't localize them if you close your eyes.
All you hear is the music spread out in front of you.
Typical box speakers don't do that.

If you think that's what I think sounds right, then fine. You seem to be stuck on that definition.
I'm just saying I've never been to a live music event that has the sound disappear in the room where I am unable to localize the sound. I would find that very unnatural and inaccurate reproduction of your goal - as you exactly said it,
but to me it means as close to live music as possible.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
16,325
Really good speakers are not magic, they will sound like crap in a room with poor acoustics because of room mode peaks, excessive sound reflections and poor LF damping. The combination of a good room, good speaker placement and good speakers is the art of magic.
No need to spend a huge about of money on room treatments. You can easily DIY good traps with low cost materials.
Old bass corner traps that are being replaced to match the new media room.
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The palm mural is made of three sheets of sound damping sheets to reduce rear sound reflection.
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Red side damping panels to reduce front speaker reflections off the cabinet. The front and right side walls will have heavy window curtains and the corner bass traps installed.
Once all the soft furniture is installed and a few rugs are on the floor, Walmart junk speakers will sound transparent.

 

crutschow

Joined Mar 14, 2008
38,508
I'm just saying I've never been to a live music event that has the sound disappear in the room where I am unable to localize the sound.
And that's not what I said.
You seem to be deliberately misstating what I am saying (the mark of a good troller).
I said the speaker locations disappear, but they spread out the music across the soundstage, so so you can locate the instruments and singers, not the location of the speakers.
 

MrSalts

Joined Apr 2, 2020
2,767
And that's not what I said.
You seem to be deliberately misstating what I am saying (the mark of a good troller).
I said the speaker locations disappear, but they spread out the music across the soundstage, so so you can locate the instruments and singers, not the location of the speakers.
Thanks for calling me a troll when I am literally quoting your words and you're still not thinking about how live venues work. At a live event, the singers and guitar amps all project the sound from speakers and do not provide your desired spread that you prefer when you listen to recorded music on your system in your listening room. Studio, coffee shops, small venue acoustic, small venue amplified/mixed, arena events all sound so different and anyone claiming they even know how to position speakers that make all of the different music sound like it did at the event or studio don't really have a good ear for the original performance. I just give up and say, recorded music sounds pretty crappy and I'd rather deal with crappy recordings than spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars on trying to make one type of music in one type of venue sound pretty good.
 
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