Replacing fan-motor for a refrigerator

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philosopher76

Joined May 28, 2019
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Hi, I need to replace a fan-motor with the following specs:
Model ZYD-2J
Shaded-pole induction motor
AC 115V 60 Hz 30W .6 A
1850 rpm

However, I have not found one with these specifications. The closest with respect to rpm is 1550. Can I use this one?
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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Is this a situation where the blades of the fan slip onto the motor's shaft? If so I'd be reluctant to use that motor since the air moving capacity would obviously be less.

I wouldn't resist a small upgrade to the motor, for instance 2,000rpm, as long as it doesn't draw much more current. You also want quiet. And make sure you get the right shaft diameter.

Looking a bit more it seems like all the replacements for that model are rated at 1,550 rpm. Where does the 1,850 number come from? Maybe it's a smudge on the label?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/146873199571
 
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crutschow

Joined Mar 14, 2008
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Model ZYD-2J
Shaded-pole induction motor
AC 115V 60 Hz 30W .6 A
1850 rpm
That appears to be in error.
At 60Hz, the maximum (synchronous) rpm for a 4-pole induction motor is 1800 RPM, but runs slightly below that due to slip under load.
I would expect the 1550 RPM motor to work satisfactorily.

If you can fit in a higher powered motor, it would run a little faster, since there would be less slip for a given load.
 
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MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
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TAt 60Hz, the maximum (synchronous) rpm for a 4-pole induction motor is 1800 RPM, but runs slightly below that due to slip under load.
I would expect the 1550 RPM motor to work satisfactorily.
BTW, an induction motor can never be synchronous. It runs asyncronously.to retain induction.
 

gaber2611

Joined Mar 14, 2013
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Hi, I need to replace a fan-motor with the following specs:
Model ZYD-2J
Shaded-pole induction motor
AC 115V 60 Hz 30W .6 A
1850 rpm

However, I have not found one with these specifications. The closest with respect to rpm is 1550. Can I use this one?
If lower Rpm, will be lower Cooling,I think, what other electric specifications?
 

crutschow

Joined Mar 14, 2008
38,316
BTW, an induction motor can never be synchronous. It runs asyncronously.to retain induction.
Of course.
Didn't mean to imply it did.
Just meant that synchronous is the maximum theoretical speed it could run, so it would seem to be an error that the rating for his fan is 1850RPM with a 60Hz input.
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
18,087
I was so focused on the air moving capacity that I didn't even look at the type of motor and the implications.

The various replacement motors for that model number are probably fine and run exactly how the original did, despite the rpm label difference.

This likely wouldn't fit mechanically but note the bump up to 3,000rpm. They're a bit loose with their specs (cite 1.35A draw when the photo clearly shows 0.135A), so who knows.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07926FG1Q/
 
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crutschow

Joined Mar 14, 2008
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This likely wouldn't fit mechanically but note the bump up to 3,000rpm.
That appears to be a 2-pole motor and would likely would have a difficult time driving a fan designed for <1800RPM.
They're a bit loose with their specs (cite 1.35A draw when the photo clearly shows 0.135A), so who knows.
Given that it's rated at 60W power output, 1.35A sounds about right for a 120V fan, given the low efficiency of shaded-pole motors (i.e. typically about 26%).
 
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