# R2 between base and emitter

#### SpNw

Joined May 27, 2020
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Hi guys, can someone explain me the purpose of the resistor R2? Thanks!

#### Bordodynov

Joined May 20, 2015
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This resistor increases the turn-on threshold of the transistor switch.

#### Ian0

Joined Aug 7, 2020
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This resistor increases the turn-on threshold of the transistor switch.
. . . in a potential divider with R1, so that it can be connected directly to a logic level output.
R2 also helps remove any stored charge and helps the transistor turn off more quickly.

#### Bordodynov

Joined May 20, 2015
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#### SpNw

Joined May 27, 2020
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. . . in a potential divider with R1, so that it can be connected directly to a logic level output.
R2 also helps remove any stored charge and helps the transistor turn off more quickly.
Thanks, one more question, it can work like a pull down resistor too? To avoid that base start floating?

#### Ian0

Joined Aug 7, 2020
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Thanks, one more question, it can work like a pull down resistor too? To avoid that base start floating?
It IS a pulldown resistor!

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#### crutschow

Joined Mar 14, 2008
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It also provides a path to ground for any high temperature base leakage current if the input is open.

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#### LvW

Joined Jun 13, 2013
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This resistor increases the turn-on threshold of the transistor switch.
As we can see in the nice diagram from Bordodynov, it does NOT influence the thresholds but it improves the rise time at the output when the input goes down. This is because the time constant for discharging the BJTs capacitance is determined by the 47k resistor(s) - single vs. parallel.

#### Ian0

Joined Aug 7, 2020
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As we can see in the nice diagram from Bordodynov, it does NOT influence the thresholds but it improves the rise time at the output when the input goes down. This is because the time constant for discharging the BJTs capacitance is determined by the 47k resistor(s) - single vs. parallel.
If R1 were absent, then it wouldn’t, but with R1 in circuit R2 sets the switch on threshold.

#### LvW

Joined Jun 13, 2013
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If R1 were absent, then it wouldn’t, but with R1 in circuit R2 sets the switch on threshold.
R1 absent? Open circuit?
I think, for a fair comparison we have to consider two cases - both with the same input voltage:
* With one single resistor R1
* With a voltage divider R1-R2.
Now it is clear that (for the same switching threshold) the time constant of the second alternative can be much smaller than for the first one.

Example: Input signal (max) Vin=6V; required base current (saturation) Ib=0.1mA: Vbe=0.8V
* case 1: Series resistance Rs=(6-0.8)V/0.1mA=52kOhms
* case 2: Current through R2 (selected) I=0.1mA ;
R2=0.8/0.1=8kOhms and R1=(6-0.8)/(I+Ib)=5.2/0.2mA=26kOhms.

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