I happened upon this site tonight. Does anyone know how to build it?

http://plugandsave.com/

-Chris

 

I think it is a scam. It is just a little capacitor that might help correct a poor power factor.
But the electricity meters in homes do not care about a poor power factor.
The people who purchased the gadget and said that it works are in the UK and in South Africa. Maybe their meters are different to mine.

Industry use properly calculated capacitors to reduce a poor power factor because their electricity meters charge extra for a poor power factor.

 

Hi Chris,

I'm the director of Plug and Save and just discovered this thread. I hope you don't mind me addressing your question here.

Thanks Audioguru for your contribution. I appreciate very much your skepticism and unfortunately there are a number of so-called devices out there that are not effective in any way.

I'm not really sure what you mean Chris when you ask about building this. If you're interested in building your own version I can perhaps help you (although some technologies we use need to be withheld, I can certainly help you to acquire some of the circuits we use though.

Best wishes,

Martin

 

Martin/PlugandSave.com,

I have removed the plug for your website (and a few other bits) as it contravenes our rules on advertising. I will closely monitor this thread for further breaches.

To alleviate the concerns of the more technical members here at AAC, care to share with us how your come to the conclusion that you get a 40% saving on electricity bills when using your device?

Dave

 

They say its a capacitor bank... Is it a power factor corrector??

 

They say its a capacitor bank... Is it a power factor corrector??

Quite possibly. It would be interesting to see data proving the 40% claim. Or is it anecdotal?

Dave

 

It sure looks like a scam to me and the pseudo science explanations on the WEB site don't do anything to boost ones confidence in the device.
To quote the web site;

Electrical flow is not stable. It contains small power spikes which can not be used by your appliances.

So far so good, its called noise.

These spikes 'leak' usable electricity from your circuit and get converted to heat inside our electrical wires which can damage your appliances over time.

How? By what mechanism does noise on the power line 'leak' usable electricity from your circuit? Where does this so-called usable elecricity get leaked to?

Our PowerSaver 9 uses a system of capacitors and patented components to smooth out these power spikes which increases the power factor in your circuits

Quite possibly it does but since domestic users are not charged for power factor does it really matter?

Ultimately, this means that you are using the electricity you already have more efficiently than before and results vary between 15% and 40% depending on your location and the quality of the electricity supply in your area.

Just where do these miraculous savings come from? Its can't be the power factor correction and if noise on your power line is making your power meter spin 15% to 40% faster then you really should be talking to your power supply company. Not to mention that so much noise on the mains would make it impossible to watch TV or listen to the radio, stereo etc.

 

We suggest plugging your PowerSaver into an unused power socket in a convenient location where you have no need to disturb it. Turn the power on, forget about it

Ya... plug it anywhere in your house. So that your neighbourhood will also benefit from the device connected in parallel on the common circuit.. This is impossible unless the current flows 'through' it and not just 'by' it... It is sure a capacitor bank then..

It is recommended to keep your PowerSaver plugged in permanently. Our PowerSavers work by storing electricity internally and then releasing it. It can take 2-3 days for your PowerSaver to store this electricity most efficiently and, if you unplug or power off your PowerSaver it will take a further 2-3 days to return to it's optimal state

My 100Ah Inverter battery wont take that long to charge from empty to full.. i dont believe it unless I get to know it internally..

 

My rural power co-op flier just printed an article warning against scams like the PowerSaver. They belong in the category with magnetic gasoline molecule alligners.

 

To alleviate the concerns of the more technical members here at AAC, care to share with us how your come to the conclusion that you get a 40% saving on electricity bills when using your device?

I've got five bucks says there's no scientific testing. A Thai power bill in an information vacuum is worth less than the greasy napkin I just threw away. Any hard tests with the thing being turned off after all the other energy saving measures have been taken? Any? Hmmm? None?

 

Funny, the Thai power bill dropping at the end of the year coincides with the ending of the rainy season after the hot season, and the beginning of the dry, "cool" season.

I'd imagine that Thai folks would use their air conditioners and lights a lot more when it's dark, hot and humid than when it's relatively cool, dry and bright outside.

 

Did you notice that the SCAMMER with his magical capacitor went away?

 

He thought its like the China market over here.. Only sales, no questions..