Power to my microgreen grow. Safe?

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Davislemming

Joined Mar 14, 2020
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Hi thankyou for having me on the forum have been growing microgreens and sprouting seeds for my own consumption but latley running low duebto friends and family taking my crops also too kind i have to donate spinnach lettuce and other small crops from one offs to everyday. So I decided to upscale and have some big hydroponic garden now growing being fed from pond water tanks where we have tapilia growing.

I want to add lighting and heating as my concrete room is cold and now my small strip lighting are not up to par.

In a shop i was advised to get 2 600watt lights in metal halide and hps they warm up without wasting money on heaters really well and have enough light for my area

My main issue is my system is plugged in my room and computers and to reach the area i need i have to run extension leads. From the next room cause im not overloading 1 socket

So i have a master extlead 30meter unwravled so not wound up.

And it has a contactor rated for 2kw with 2 600watt lights on it.

I run everything els on seperate extesion leads. But is this safe to work?
600watt lights x2 is 1200watt that 10 amp?
The contactor states it saves the load surges on startup and shutdown of lights which will be on 20hrs a day 365days a year
And socket says 13amp 3000watt

Our electrician in our town is on holiday for 4 weeks and i cant afford the money for one to drive 70miles to me
 

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Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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Some of what you are asking will drift into your location. While 1200 watts is 1200 watts that 1200 watts at 120 VAC is 10 amps which is not much but that same 1200 watts at 240 VAC is now only 5 amps. What is your mains voltage and if for example you are in the UK and have 220/240 VAC mains it's nice to have the lower current demand. You also need to allow some margin.

Ron
 

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Davislemming

Joined Mar 14, 2020
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Some of what you are asking will drift into your location. While 1200 watts is 1200 watts that 1200 watts at 120 VAC is 10 amps which is not much but that same 1200 watts at 240 VAC is now only 5 amps. What is your mains voltage and if for example you are in the UK and have 220/240 VAC mains it's nice to have the lower current demand. You also need to allow some margin.

Ron
Thankyou for your time.
I am in the uk standard 240vac
 

jpanhalt

Joined Jan 18, 2008
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It's been more than an hour since I reported this thread as a violation AAC's TOS. Why no action? It's as fake as Jim Bakker (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bakker) and illegal in the US and in the UK. The TS is growing pot.

Nevertheless, AAC enforces its ban on transformerless power supplies that are completely legal in both jurisdictions at luminal speed.. Hypocrisy?
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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It's been more than an hour since I reported this thread as a violation AAC's TOS. Why no action? It's as fake as Jim Bakker (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bakker) and illegal in the US and in the UK. The TS is growing pot.

Nevertheless, AAC enforces its ban on transformerless power supplies that are completely legal in both jurisdictions at luminal speed.. Hypocrisy?
OK, now just calm down. The pot thought crossed my mind and anytime someone ask about a grow lamp or similar it crosses my mind. The growing of the evil weed is actually legal in several US states and the number is growing but here nor there. The image attached to the first post does not reflect pot plants. So while the post may or may not be legitimate who am I to say? I agree as to the what I feel foolish transformer nonsense but in all fairness I can't apply that here.

Ron
 

GetDeviceInfo

Joined Jun 7, 2009
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Can’t imagine micros under 600watts of mh or hps, for a bunch of reasons. I agree, it’s a bust. We are legal here in Canada and I can testify that fluorescents are very capable. That or led for micros. Height is too valuable to waste with big lamps in a micro grow.
The other thing is, the lamps will burn you down before the extension cord, unless it’s lamp cord. Go figure
 

djsfantasi

Joined Apr 11, 2010
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It's been more than an hour since I reported this thread as a violation AAC's TOS. Why no action? It's as fake as Jim Bakker (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bakker) and illegal in the US and in the UK. The TS is growing pot.

Nevertheless, AAC enforces its ban on transformerless power supplies that are completely legal in both jurisdictions at luminal speed.. Hypocrisy?
It’s not universally illegal in the US. Denver and Massachusetts are two states where it’s legal.
 

SamR

Joined Mar 19, 2019
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Ya know the thought crossed my mind after his first post that anyone growing Tilapia would know how to spell them. Along with...

Then there is my cousin in TN with the Horticulture Degree from UT. Along with his greenhouse, plant sales, Commercial indoor Plant Decorating and maintenance, and Landscaping Enterprises has now also become a Commercial Hemp Farmer. So far the only person making any money off of it are the bureaucrats and he is still in the red after his first harvest and not covered his licensing and startup costs.
 
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jpanhalt

Joined Jan 18, 2008
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OK, now just calm down. The pot thought crossed my mind and anytime someone ask about a grow lamp or similar it crosses my mind. The growing of the evil weed is actually legal in several US states and the number is growing but here nor there. The image attached to the first post does not reflect pot plants. So while the post may or may not be legitimate who am I to say? I agree as to the what I feel foolish transformer nonsense but in all fairness I can't apply that here.

Ron
Growing weed is illegal in the United States at the Federal level. That means everywhere. States have gotten around that at the enforcement level.. The situation is not unlike sanctuary cities and states.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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It's been more than an hour since I reported this thread as a violation AAC's TOS. Why no action? It's as fake as Jim Bakker (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bakker) and illegal in the US and in the UK. The TS is growing pot.

Nevertheless, AAC enforces its ban on transformerless power supplies that are completely legal in both jurisdictions at luminal speed.. Hypocrisy?
Really? We have to take action within an hour of when you make a report?

I was the first mod to see your report and I didn't see it until nearly four hours after you made it.

I'm trying to get a discussion going but so far no luck -- can't imagine why other mods in other parts of the world might have other things on their mind right now. Even under normal circumstances it's not unusual for it to take many hours or even days for enough mods to see a report and discuss it to reach a consensus.

I haven't taken action because, unlike you, I have no basis upon which to conclude that he is growing pot. Even if he were, I have no idea whether or not doing so is illegal where the poster is located (which is NOT the U.S., so ranting about whether or not growing it in the U.S. is legal or not is an irrelevant waste of time).

Admittedly, I am not in that subculture and so don't know all the buzzwords and euphemisms, but I've never heard of "spinnach (sic) lettuce" being a codeword for marijuana. I Googled microgreens and everything I have looked at indicated that it has to do with growing vegetables and herbs and harvesting them at an early stage of growth on the belief that it is healthier. These appear to commonly be done in indoor grow setups. I haven't found anything that would seem to tie "microgreens" or "sprouting seeds" to pot cultivation. That doesn't mean that such a tie doesn't exist (as I said, I'm completely foreign to that subculture), but I'm certainly not going to jump to the conclusion that it does.

At this point I don't see any reason to take any action at all, including locking the thread pending mod discussion. If you can make a convincing case why someone asking about growing microgreens for their own consumption must translate to illegally cultivating marijuana, then that might change.
 

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Davislemming

Joined Mar 14, 2020
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I am discusted at claims how thr hell does anyone even get to that for god sake do you want a video of inside my room do i need to open a court case or what i dont break laws i went i to a shop they said if you need a heater ur gona use money for nothing.
They advised me to get hps as it had the light and heat in 1. I dont see problems with that

If i wanted dirty pot advice id be on 1 of their forums not posting on electronic forums and hydroponic forums

Everywhere online days hps is beter in micro green grows


So what the hell
There used allover the world in green houses for vegetables but i musy be growing pot
I dont kbow weather to be offended of laugh my head off

In my 10degree room it makes sence to use a light as a heater rather than use 30 quid a week on a heater with no output
 

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Davislemming

Joined Mar 14, 2020
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Maybe i should state that microgreens yes needow light big also wont grow if its damn cold..
Also having more room and my setup i wnat the option to grow tomatos and anything els i can why wouldnt i for god sake there not all gona scoff. Icrogreens out their ears and as for lettuce i grow that full thats not microgreen in my books

I have my micro greens and i appoligise for not stating i want to set my veg farm up more.

Only wanted to know i am safe as the guys in the shop just say yeah u can run what u want off extension leads and i dont trust that ive had bad experiences with them

This ladys growing and said cost was up but hels with heating and cost is what i am paying out on an oil radiator and they are bigger plants


And it appears unless u can afford their leds which still need heaters then. Every commercial veg fsrmer uses hps also.

So whats the problem with me using it hps isnt illigal is it?
 

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Davislemming

Joined Mar 14, 2020
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Im finding it funny now and quite greatful as it lead me to search and find out alo5 more about lighting and growing
https://www.hortidaily.com/article/...omato-yields-and-longer-illumination-periods/

Light manufacturers have not yet achieved a one-to-one replacement LED for HPS, but they are getting closer,” he said. “HPS bulbs emit light in all directions so it has to be bounced back down towards the crop. The reflector has a huge influence on how good the light reception level is. LED light is more direct and it may be focused to specific parts of the plant.”

Seems im not the only fellow using the heat from the hps so the guy in my ship was spot on. And the light fills all my room instead of running loads of strips which would also cost an arm and a leg to fill this space same with led. So hps seems doable

As for the guy asking if uk was 230 not 240. It might be? I dont know ur prob right i chose the option thst wasnt 110usa google said 240 uk so i posted that sorry if i am wrong thankyou for trying to help
 

ericgibbs

Joined Jan 29, 2010
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Since when does AAC support illegal activities?
hi John,
From the later information the TS posted regarding the 'greens' that he is growing, it appears you have made an judgemental error in suggesting that the TS is engaged in growing illegal plants and that AAC is supporting illegal activities?

Any thoughts of what might be considered an appropriate response.?

Eric
 

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Davislemming

Joined Mar 14, 2020
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And appoligies for my typing errors this does not reflect me as a person im competent in what i do not now i type and the mrs is always having ago at me for it. My mechanic cant write he stil knows what an alternator is
 

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Davislemming

Joined Mar 14, 2020
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hi John, From the later information the TS posted regarding the 'greens' that he is growing, it appears you have made an judgemental error in suggesting that the TS is engaged in growing illegal plants and that AAC is supporting illegal activities? Any thoughts of what might be considered an appropriate response.? Eric
Thankyou Now if we can get the hijacked thread back atall? I have 2x 600 watt illigal farming lights haha Wattage 600w Power Lead 2m Voltage 240v Running Amps 2.9 amps

And i have either
20 metre two gang socket heavy duty extension fitted with a tough impact resistant 13amp 230v plug and assembled with highly flexible & easy to coil after use industrial 2.5mm H07RN-F tough rubber cable (i use for my welder before you thi k i rob banks or somthing)

Or i have a normal cable reel 10m 13amp with a surge protector trip 4 plug. (use for my drill grinder or anything i need in my house)

Then ive got a contactor timer 2kw rated which i dont know if i run this from the wall to extensionlead or at the end of extension lead where the lights plug in to?

And im asking it i am safe to do that from what i read i have 1200watt and 6 amp power?

Wall>extension>contactor>lights
Wall contactor>extension>lights

?
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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Growing weed is illegal in the United States at the Federal level. That means everywhere. States have gotten around that at the enforcement level.. The situation is not unlike sanctuary cities and states.
Look, I agree but it hardly worth getting upset over. Retired now but when I worked I required both DoD and DoE clearances. Especially under DoE we were subject to regular piss test. I vacation in Colorado or closer yet Michigan where recreational use of the drug is legal so I smoke some. I come home and get called for a piss test and piss positive. Game over, I am escorted out of the facility and my clearances are toast. I just can't see making an issue over it when I don't even know for sure what someone is growing. I know people using grow lights to start tomato and green pepper seedlings. Sooner or later the federal level in the US will be changed and let the states decide.

Ron
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
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Since when does AAC support illegal activities?
Ironically. I believe this forum is now owned by a Canadian source?
If so Cannabis is now legal in Canada, but most firearms are not, but in spite of several OP's on the subject of owning guns, no one has objected to the posts here despite the illegality of them in just about anywhere but USA.
IOW, if this is intended to be a world forum, every jurisdictions has differing laws, so what is taboo in one country may not be where the OP is located.
Max.

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