Power supply and driver for led pannel

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Tonino

Joined Mar 13, 2019
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Hi to everyone.
I hope this is the right section of forum to ask this question.
I'm trying to make a led pannel for my aquarium, so i decided to buy some led.
Now, i have 5 led that work at 12 Volt, but two of them have two for each one resistor{8R2 smd resistor 8.2 ohm/1W} that limit the curret flow and the other doesn't have it, so my problem is:
1-how can I size that missing resistor?
2-the 2 led that have a resistor are a 2Watt led and the other are 10Watt
I post a photo of the schematic, i hope everything can be easily underrstand :).
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mvas

Joined Jun 19, 2017
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If the LED's are designed for 12 Volts then they usually have a "built-in" current limiting resistor, someplace.
What is the Model # ?
 

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Tonino

Joined Mar 13, 2019
10
If the LED's are designed for 12 Volts then they usually have a "built-in" current limiting resistor, someplace.
What is the Model # ?
Thank you for your reply, anyway, they doen't have a restistor, in fact if i connect direclty to them 12V they start to become extremely hot.
 

pmd34

Joined Feb 22, 2014
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Hi Tonino, you need to get the specifications for the LED's current rating at a specified voltage. Even the chinese suppliers will state this on the page where you bought them.
 

mvas

Joined Jun 19, 2017
539
Thank you for your reply, anyway, they doen't have a restistor, in fact if i connect direclty to them 12V they start to become extremely hot.
Of course they will get HOT.
They are 10 Watt LED's.
They must be mounted to a Heat Sink.
You stated they were rated as "12 Volt LED's", if true then no additional current limiting resistor is needed for 12 volt operation
 

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Tonino

Joined Mar 13, 2019
10
Of course they will get HOT.
They are 10 Watt LED's.
They must be mounted to a Heat Sink.
You stated they were rated as "12 Volt LED's", if true then no additional current limiting resistor is needed for 12 volt operation
I mounted an aluminium heat sink but it looks doesn't work, are u sure that the led don't require a resistor if it work at 12V?
 

mvas

Joined Jun 19, 2017
539
so are you telling me that it's normal to get so hot?
Yes, we are telling you that your LED will be hot.
The message stated ... a 1 Watt Resistor will burn your finger.
So now multiply that by 10 TIMES, for your 10 Watt LED.
When you multiply by 10 TIMES, the answer is much bigger = much hotter.
Your (yellow) LED will get hot, very hot - without a heat sink.
Take a photo of your Heat Sink and post it in your reply.

How much current is flowing through the (yellow) LED at 12 Volts ?
 
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iONic

Joined Nov 16, 2007
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If you have no datasheet or model#'s, then where did you buy them and do you have a link to the site?? And yes, heat-sinks are required! Do not operate them without proper mounting as you WILL reduce their lifespan.
 

bertus

Joined Apr 5, 2008
22,278
Hello,

The leds are 9 - 12 Volts and must have a current limited below 1050 mA:

10W 900LM LED Chip DC 9-12V .png

I have set the language on the page to enslish and made a screenshot.

Bertus
 

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Tonino

Joined Mar 13, 2019
10
Yes, we are telling you that your LED will be hot.
The message stated ... a 1 Watt Resistor will burn your finger.
So now multiply that by 10 TIMES, for your 10 Watt LED.
When you multiply by 10 TIMES, the answer is much bigger = much hotter.
Your (yellow) LED will get hot, very hot - without a heat sink.
Take a photo of your Heat Sink and post it in your reply.

How much current is flowing through the (yellow) LED at 12 Volts ?
Ok, the problem is: i don't want a burning led over my aquarium, so the question remain the same....How can i limit the flowing current and reduce the heat?
through the yellow led i don't know how much current is flowing, because i measure with my multimeter but part of the current goes inside the multimeter so i don't know precisely the amount of current, the multimeter tell my 350mA.
 

bertus

Joined Apr 5, 2008
22,278
Hello,

There is enough information for making a circuit.
When you connect the leds in series and drive them with an 1A boost driver like the LM3421, the circuit will be complete.

Bertus
 

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