Agreed, but where does the 'lost' current go if there is no ground (however inefficient) connection?

That is the whole point of it. It might be going through a person to ground and that is why it cuts it off.

Bob

 

Agreed, but where does the 'lost' current go if there is no ground (however inefficient) connection?

It's making it to ground thru some undefined path...possibly "you".

 

Why do you gave to touch the outlet box to plug something into it?

With the strip as suggested by someone, you would only need to plug into the outlet once. Wear rubber soled shoes, keep one hand in your pocket, and don’t do it when the floor is wet.

Bob

 

Outlet box is not fixed into the wall its floating in space, so i need to touch in order to plug my apc extender,

 

Outlet box is not fixed into the wall its floating in space, so i need to touch in order to plug my apc extender,

We understand that.
You are not going to die by plugging in your APC power bar.

 

So i can plug it without any gloves and i will be safe ?

 

Yes

 

ok i will listen to you
and i will try without any gloves

 

An experienced electrician follows the electrical code.
Your medical experience tells you that people who carefully observe safety rules rarely end up in a hospital.
There is a systematic way of diagnosing the existing condition and correctly installs and tests new installation. He will be confident
about not having any injury. It requires training, experience and qualifications. The only responsible advice I can give.

https://globalnews.ca/video/rd/1563124803663/

 

An experienced electrician follows the electrical code.
Your medical experience tells you that people who carefully observe safety rules rarely end up in a hospital.
There is a systematic way of diagnosing the existing condition and correctly installs and tests new installation. He will be confident
about not having any injury. It requires training, experience and qualifications. The only responsible advice I can give.

https://globalnews.ca/video/rd/1563124803663/

i dont plan to became a electrician , only to charge my car battery with my ctek car battery charger and plugin my apc outlet into another socket, i dont plan to do any modification of the installation etcs...
it can happen to anybody..

 

Indeed Max is correct. In an isolated circuit there will be no current flowing if a grounded person grabs either conductor, and so there would be no shock, either. The fact is that a GFCI will provide no protection for an isolated circuit where there exists no shock hazard.
But in most parts of the world one side of the distribution mains is tied to earth ground, and so there is no isolation and the "Hot" wire does pose a potential shock hazard

 

Socket was missing, ground so i bought gloves and i am fine i used gloves to connect my apc to this bad socket.. now i charge my battery fine.

 

I will be quite interested in seeing a much clearer photo of the actual outlet installation. Also, what part of the world this is. The electrical looks a bit different from what I see in the USA.

 

Electric socket its in Europe - BG , from where i know that its missing ground my apc smart socket recognized that it missing ground...
i will upload picture here of the socket which i am allowed to use, i also attach photo of my apc where it shows that ground is not there its missing... or bad.

I am happy from the die electric gloves they are certificed around 25$ so i trust them.

 

Electric socket its in Europe - BG , from where i know that its missing ground my apc smart socket recognized that it missing ground...
i will upload picture here of the socket which i am allowed to use, i also attach photo of my apc where it shows that ground is not there its missing... or bad.

I am happy from the die electric gloves they are certificed around 25$ so i trust them.

Two things,
no one here is legally responsible if you do have injuries , or have them caused to others by this power

I assume as its a garage, its well ventilated, but a second area, if you charring lead acid batteries, they can gas,
and give off hydrogen, which is an explosive,
The charger / battery design should stop this ,
but if it does happen, think fuel air explosive, not nice.

https://jmvh.org/article/munitions-thermobaric-munitions-and-their-medical-effects/

 

Garage is well ventilated and open when i charge batteries.
Also car is completely stop so no fuel leak...... i have charged many of my car batteries and friends batteries in my home in the past..

 

Current electric vehicles do not use lead/acid batteries In addition, the TS is not doing high powered charging. And besides that, the area is large and well vented. So we do not need any fearmongering here.

 

Thanks for the pics.

 

Current electric vehicles do not use lead/acid batteries In addition, the TS is not doing high powered charging. And besides that, the area is large and well vented. So we do not need any fearmongering here.

Just as an aside,
most electric cars have a lead acid battery as well