partial full-wave rectification

Thread Starter

Zuma

Joined Mar 12, 2011
4
If I have an AC voltage source that periodically falls to 0volts, is there a method to full-wave rectify only the AC portions of the wave?

For example, if the input wave looks something like this:

Rich (BB code):
 /\    /\    /\             /\    /\    /\             /\    /\    /\  
/  \  /  \  /  \-----------/  \  /  \  /  \-----------/  \  /  \  /  \-----------
    \/    \/                   \/    \/                   \/    \/
Is there a simple method to achieve this:

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  ____________               ____________               ____________
 /            \             /            \             /            \   
/              \-----------/              \-----------/              \-----------
Instead of this, which full-wave rectification gives:

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  ____________               ____________               ____________
 /            `--__         /            `--__         /            `--__ 
/                  ``------/                  ``------/                  ``------
I suppose I'm thinking of a capacitor that just maintains the voltage from one peak of the AC to the next, but then dies off almost instantly, so that it doesn't continue into the 0volt range.

I just had a thought; I might be able to use logic gate(s) to give the capacitor a low-resistance path to ground, once the input drops below a certain voltage.

That's a bit more complex than I had in mind though, so I'd be interested to hear if there is a simple way to achieve this result.
 

PackratKing

Joined Jul 13, 2008
847
OK...........from square 1 :

Is the first graph representing your o' scope trace for an AC source to be fed to a rectifier ??

You should be showing an unbroken sinewave in either 60 or 50 Hz based on what part of the world you are in

We'll go from there.
 

studiot

Joined Nov 9, 2007
4,998
I don't think your third trace shows full wave rectification of the first.

I think this is what happens if you add a capacitor to a full wave rectifier.

Full wave rectifiers do not incorporate capacitors by themselves.
 

russ_hensel

Joined Jan 11, 2009
825
Generally this is called demodulation of a amplitude modulated wave. This should help you find more info. You are on the right track for a simple demodulator.
 

billbehen

Joined May 10, 2006
39
What if you don't use a cap at all, then overamplify with an op-amp to sky the voltage as soon as you have any rectified signal at all? The op-amp will just max out at its positive input voltage. This assumes you don't need a high power output....
 

tom66

Joined May 9, 2009
2,595
It looks like you just want a diode, unless you want to maintain the voltage, in which case a cap + suitably chosen resistor will work well.
 

Thread Starter

Zuma

Joined Mar 12, 2011
4
Thanks for the replies, and sorry for my confused terminology. "Demodulation of a amplitude modulated wave" is exactly what I was after.
 

Thread Starter

Zuma

Joined Mar 12, 2011
4
What is the time scale on your plots?
I had no particular time scale or frequency in mind. Well, I was working with a frequency of 100Hz, but thinking of the general case of a digital-like signal, where the "high" sections are a sine wave, and I want to make it more digital-like. "Demodulation" put me on the right track.
 
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