#### Papabravo

Joined Feb 24, 2006
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I get the sense you haven't read into his background....
Have you studied the background of the cops and the teachers? He was a kid, and a civilized society would not do that to a kid -- any kid.

#### Hypatia's Protege

Joined Mar 1, 2015
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he didn't deserve the treatment he got from a bunch of ignorant hicks including the clueless cops.

I must confess that I see something in what you're saying! -- I yet the remember the BS I had to endure when purchasing a pressure cooker for 'off label' purposes -- they (i.e. security) didn't comprehend 'vacuum chamber' despite repeated, patient explanation!!!

Best regards
HP

#### Wendy

Joined Mar 24, 2008
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I'm surprised it took this long. I suspect the requested amount will damage his case, maybe even kill it.

#### DerStrom8

Joined Feb 20, 2011
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Have you studied the background of the cops and the teachers? He was a kid, and a civilized society would not do that to a kid -- any kid.
I'm not necessarily saying he should have been arrested, I'm just saying it's not entirely unfounded. He has caused trouble before, and what if it was actually a bomb? He should have spoken up and explained himself when the officers asked him what it was. Instead he plead the fifth, which only made him look more suspicious. At that point he was literally asking for trouble. Put yourself in his shoes--If you took apart an alarm clock and put it in a box, and an officer asked you what it was and said it looked like a bomb, wouldn't you want to explain yourself by explaining that it was a science project, and that you'd just taken apart a consumer alarm clock and put it in a case? He was being stupid, and the officers reacted the way they did because he refused to answer their questions about the clock, and made himself appear to be a threat.

#### tcmtech

Joined Nov 4, 2013
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Guess again. He repeatedly told everyone in sight that it was a clock. The part that puzzled him was when the police, after determining it was only a clock, kept asking him what a clock is for. It's for telling time!!!!!!!

Unfortunately stuff like that happens a lot more than most of us care to admit to. I know I have had way too many personal experiences where someone tried to make me out to be the bad guy by asking me a question that was so stupid or irrelevant I could not come up with a rational answer to it.

If I had law enforcement officers plus some public school officials in my face asking me what a clock is for I probably would have not been willing to answer that either for concern that either these people are setting a trap or they are outrightly just really that dumb and not worth wasting my breath on.

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#### tracecom

Joined Apr 16, 2010
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You guys might have a bit more credibility if you had ever been arrested and handcuffed for any kind of reason.
I never realized that being arrested and handcuffed would give me credibility.

#### Sinus23

Joined Sep 7, 2013
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I'm surprised it took this long. I suspect the requested amount will damage his case, maybe even kill it.
Same here I wasn't surprised that he wants sue for damages but that amount is really out there. Wasn't there a man that got something like $16 mil just the other day for being in prison since '81 after 2 cops framed him? Or did I just dream it... I couldn't find the article again, though I'm sure I read it earlier today or yesterday #### GopherT Joined Nov 23, 2012 8,012 Wasn't there a man that got something like$16 mil just the other day for being in prison since '81 after 2 cops framed him?
So, what you are saying then, is that the process of being arrested is where the pain an agony is. The guy in prison since '81 must have had a slightly more traumatic arrest since he asked for $16M and this kid is asking for only$15M.

The guy arrested in '81 did get food, clothing and shelter for the past 35 years. I'm surprised the state didn't ask him to pay them back for the unnecessary accommodations.

#### Papabravo

Joined Feb 24, 2006
13,963
I'm surprised it took this long. I suspect the requested amount will damage his case, maybe even kill it.
You may have a point there. Juries can decide the requested amount is too high and adjust accordingly. I don't know if Texas Civil Procedure allows this or not.

When we delegate extraordinary powers to public officials we have an absolute right to expect that they will use good judgement in the exercise of that power. When police and other officials decide to get heavy handed just because they think they can intimidate a 15-year old kid, is when the heavy hand of the court needs to keep them in check. If they lose this case, the heavier hand of their liability insurance company will most definitely be looking over their shoulder.

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