Then why not just get a common "C" frame induction motor and mount you pump to it? Hydraulic pumps unless connected to a gas engine use a regulator to control pressure not motor speed. Even most every hydraulic piece of equipment, back hoes , dozers etc, keep the motor running at a constant governed speed and use a regulator. A log splitter is usually even used this way, full speed on the motor. C frame motors are on Craig's list all of the time, swimming pool pump motors, for next to nothing.

Gas engine powered log splitters can get away without the regulator because the motor isn't powerful enough to break the cylinder. Electric motors put out there highest power in "stall", so there is a real chance of breaking something when using electric powered hydraulics. Do some reading on the subject.

Hey! Yeah I don't want to do gas because of how loud they are, and the cost of keeping it running... Electric is a lot easier for me to use. I thought about buying other motors to use, but I need something that's powerful enough (at least 2HP), and has enough RPMs to meet up to the pump's standards for full capacity. Most the motors I've found that are close to this, go for no less than about $150, so I'm trying to work within a budget... The motor I have now can do what I need though. I was able to get a simple estimate of the rpm of the motor, and it was quite higher than the recommended rpms for the pump I need... So a variable speed controller would help me dial in the correct amout of rpms for the pump.

Electric is actually a lot better than gas, because it is more consistent with power and how it pumps fluid... Most forge presses are made of electric rather than gas, because of some other reasons (I honestly don't know them all) but it's just a lot more efficient. These ones just run off of gas so that you can use it when you're in the woods or camping, and don't have to use a Solar panel or something to run it. The cylinder usually doesn't break unless it's really old, or cheap Chinese equipment... Which, the log splitter I'm saving up for might have a cheap cylinder, but I do plan on replacing the cylinder for a better one; that's still compatible with the pump...

So, basically the setup is motor-pump-fluid-cylinder... The motor turns the pump, the pump pumps fluid from the tank, and the fluid is put into the cylinder to make it move... So, the setup I'm using doesn't rely on air pressure for the hydraulics; it's mostly just relying on the motor's speed, and how fast it pumps the fluid into the cylinder... Which is called GPMs (gallons per minute). So, depending on your pump and size of your cylinder, the GPMs determine how fast the hydraulics move... So if you had a 1GPM pump hooked up to let's say a 1700RPM motor, it's not going to move very quickly... And what you need is the hydraulics to move quicker to move the steel, before the steel gets cold... So if you had a 4GPM pump with a 4000RPM motor, it'll be a lot quicker... Or if you had a 4GPM pump, and let's say you wanted it a little slower so you have more control; you'd turn down the RPM of the motor to 3000RPM.... That'll help change how fast it pumps the fluid.

It's a lot to explain, but I've done quite a bit of research and had some teachers walk me through most of it. I might be missing some things, I don't think I did; but if so you can correct me on that.

 

The pump from the gas splitter will work just fine on an electric motor. But think you'll find that the treadmill motor will be lacking in power once you slow it down. Being that the gas motor is governed to around 3600 RPM an electric motor of that RPM will work. Most pumps like used on a splitter are used with something called a 'C' face(I said frame earlier because I couldn't think of the term "face") adapter. There are also 'C' face electric motors, that makes coupling the motor and pump together easier, the pump and motor are then joined by the flex coupling, that also is part of the splitter.

If you don't go that route, you'll need to have some sort of pump mount made and the either belt drive it(not a good idea really) or make the mount with enough precision to match the shafts in line between the motor and pump. Miss alignment will either wear the motor or pump bearings quickly. A 'C' face motor will make all of this easier since that is what they are made for.

 

The pump from the gas splitter will work just fine on an electric motor. But think you'll find that the treadmill motor will be lacking in power once you slow it down. Being that the gas motor is governed to around 3600 RPM an electric motor of that RPM will work. Most pumps like used on a splitter are used with something called a 'C' face(I said frame earlier because I couldn't think of the term "face") adapter. There are also 'C' face electric motors, that makes coupling the motor and pump together easier, the pump and motor are then joined by the flex coupling, that also is part of the splitter.

If you don't go that route, you'll need to have some sort of pump mount made and the either belt drive it(not a good idea really) or make the mount with enough precision to match the shafts in line between the motor and pump. Miss alignment will either wear the motor or pump bearings quickly. A 'C' face motor will make all of this easier since that is what they are made for.

Oh okay! Yeah I was wondering what you meant lol. Are those motors actually built for hydraulic log splitters?

 

Oh okay! Yeah I was wondering what you meant lol. Are those motors actually built for hydraulic log splitters?

Which motor? the gas motor has an adapter that is like a "C" face mount that uses existing holes in all small gas motors. "C" face motors have to mounting forms on them, a foot to bolt it to something and a "C" face bolt circle on the end where the shaft come out where the pump or a gear box can be bolted.

Also be aware that most of the motors on that type of splitter are rated at 5HP, and the treadmill motor while may be called many horsepower ratings is only at that rating when in a stalled condition, also called full load amperage, when turning at speed they are way less. http://www.hydramount.com/products/cmotor.php

 

Which motor? the gas motor has an adapter that is like a "C" face mount that uses existing holes in all small gas motors. "C" face motors have to mounting forms on them, a foot to bolt it to something and a "C" face bolt circle on the end where the shaft come out where the pump or a gear box can be bolted.

Also be aware that most of the motors on that type of splitter are rated at 5HP, and the treadmill motor while may be called many horsepower ratings is only at that rating when in a stalled condition, also called full load amperage, when turning at speed they are way less. http://www.hydramount.com/products/cmotor.php

Oh i thought you meant that the C frame motors were electric...

 

Oh i thought you meant that the C frame motors were electric...

They are.
C is a motor mounting standard, flange face mounting rather that feet.
Max.

 

You want a motor like one of these

 

You want a motor like one of these

How much does one of those go for though? I'm working on a budget, that's why i decided to go with the motor I got.

 

If you chose a AC motor as above, you have approx four rpm options up to a max of 3400 rpm on 60hz.
2 pole.
4 pole.
6 pole.
8 pole.
Max.

 

You want a motor like one of these

Sure doesn't look like a C face motor. The C face motors make mounting a splitter pump a quick job. Not having to pay some one to design and make a mounting bracket that may or may not work. He is changing his splitter to electric using the original pump which any I've seen are C mount.

 

Sure doesn't look like a C face motor. The C face motors make mounting a splitter pump a quick job. Not having to pay some one to design and make a mounting bracket that may or may not work. He is changing his splitter to electric using the original pump which any I've seen are C mount.

Can you send me a link to one I can find for sale? I looked around on eBay, but couldn't find much.

 

Can you send me a link to one I can find for sale? I looked around on eBay, but couldn't find much.

One of what? A motor? A 'C' mount? This place is good if you want new, you won't find much better prices; https://www.surpluscenter.com/

Your here in the States aren't you? Craigslist is the first place I look for stuff like this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craigslist

 

One of what? A motor? A 'C' mount? This place is good if you want new, you won't find much better prices; https://www.surpluscenter.com/

Your here in the States aren't you? Craigslist is the first place I look for stuff like this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craigslist

Okay so can I mount any motor to a C mount, or do I need a special motor to mount it to that?

 

Okay so can I mount any motor to a C mount, or do I need a special motor to mount it to that?

NO! the only one that works is called a "C face motor".

 

NO! the only one that works is called a "C face motor".

Okay, I found a few I might be able to use then... A little pricey, but I guess it'll be worth it for what it'll provide. Thanks for the help!

 

Additional Information
Part Number GPV0022C
Product Series Rolled Steel TEFC
Motor Type TEFC, Rolled Steel
Mounting Footless, Round Body, C Face
Horsepower 2 hp
RPM 3600
Phase Three Phase
Ratings NEMA Premium
Frame 145TC
Voltage 230/460V (Usable on 208V)
Product Series No
Warranty 3 Years
Just need to find a single phase
We use a lot of them LOL A little bigger but the one I posted is about what you need a 2 horse but you not want a 3 phase I don't work with much single phase but they have them too

 

Additional Information
Part Number GPV0022C
Product Series Rolled Steel TEFC
Motor Type TEFC, Rolled Steel
Mounting Footless, Round Body, C Face
Horsepower 2 hp
RPM 3600
Phase Three Phase
Ratings NEMA Premium
Frame 145TC
Voltage 230/460V (Usable on 208V)
Product Series No
Warranty 3 Years
Just need to find a single phase
We use a lot of them LOL A little bigger but the one I posted is about what you need a 2 horse but you not want a 3 phase I don't work with much single phase but they have them too

Where did you find this one?

 

We build car washer there 6 pumps in them you need a motor that's made for this you could pick up a cheap one at Harbor Freight or at a Tractor Supply both sell hydraulic log splitters in electric motors for the pump

 

We build car washer there 6 pumps in them you need a motor that's made for this you could pick up a cheap one at Harbor Freight or at a Tractor Supply both sell hydraulic log splitters in electric motors for the pump

But then your pumps must have a mounting point, right? His splitter pump has no mounting point, it bolts directly to a C face adapter.

 

But then your pumps must have a mounting point, right? His splitter pump has no mounting point, it bolts directly to a C face adapter.

Yeah that's the thing... To find the motor I need to mount it; the cheapest one I could find, that had enough power, was about $300 minimum... So I'm thinking, the motors on these log splitters are almost exactly the same as the motor I already have, just in a dif design and built differently... So I think it'll just be cheaper, and easier to make the mounting bracket myself; or have a fabricator do it so I can use the existing motor I have... I'd rather not pay a huge amount of money for something that may or may not work; and go to mount it on and find out it's the wrong one... I'd like to at least give what I have a shot first before I go into paying that much...