@joeyd999
You can do that if you are the US. Just let any smaller country do that and the very moral UN will immediately condemn it.

Which is one of the reasons for the state of the world today. Occasionally, the underbrush requires clearing to prevent a conflagration.

 

While not supporting what is happening in the region.... What do you think the west would do if a country or countries would come here and do what we do there? And why is it we would be correct in doing it(fighting back) but we condemn them for doing it.

 

While not supporting what is happening in the region.... What do you think the west would do if a country or countries would come here and do what we do there? And why is it we would be correct in doing it(fighting back) but we condemn them for doing it.

Islam has been at war with the West since the 7th century. Moral equivalency does not work here.

Let me rephrase: they started it.

 

Do you think Congress would authorize a real war?

Not a fat chance. And rightfully so. Wars are one of those things that we should try our best to avoid, unless our vital interests are at risk. A strong military is a good investment only if it deters wars. When you have to deploy your military to fight a war, it has become an expense. That's something very few Republicans understand.

 

What do you think the west would do if a country or countries would come here and do what we do there?

Great question. I wish more Americans can ask themselves and their politicians that question.

 

That's something very few Republicans understand.

Funny. I thought the president for the last 7 years was a Democrat.

I suppose Harry Truman and JFK were also Republicans?

Please, tell us what else few Republicans understand -- and watch how fast this thread get closed.

 

MOD NOTE: Let's not go down that path, guys.

 

@WBahn Your F15 has a nice camo, should fit in now.

 

@WBahn Your F15 has a nice camo, should fit in now.

That's northern camo ... VERY northern camo.

 

Islam has been at war with the West since the 7th century.

Wow, Had to go back a ways to find that one. And here I thought they called it even after the Crusades.

Moral equivalency does not work here.

Sure it does. Why not?

 

Do you think Congress would authorize a real war?

My unbiased opinion is Congress will not declare war. Congress authorized every conflict since WWII, by funding it.

In 1976 we had a transition quarter to move the start of the fiscal year from 1 Jul to 1 Oct. The stated reason was they didn't have enough time to pass a budget. I don't know the last time we had a budget by 30 Sep. I remember tons of Continuing Resolutions.

So, if they don't have the wherewithal to do their job ON TIME, I seriously doubt they have the wherewithal to declare war.

No department is authorized to expend money unless Congress authorizes it. The CR process allows the government to continue to operate without a budget, and the authorizations typically do not exceed the previous year's expenditures.

One way the democrat controlled Congress in the 1970s pushed Nixon towards peace was the threat to not authorize (defund) monies targeted to the execution of the Viet Nam war. The current VP was first elected in 1972 to Congress. He was one of the politico's who passed through the radio station I worked at in the evenings while in high school.

Truman didn't know of the Manhattan Project until he was sworn in as President, as VP he didn't have the "need to know".

So If we are not prepared to stay there for years to come I see no reason to do it all again.

The military is prepared to hold a position as long as the President want's them to. The American People are not prepared to wage war as demonstrated by their political officeholders.

The fault lies with the elected officials, not the military.

 

Wow, Had to go back a ways to find that one. And here I thought they called it even after the Crusades.

I assume you have a point to make. Your English seems not to translate into mine.

 

I assume you have a point to make. Your English seems not to translate into mine.

Just seems like 1300 years is a long time to hold a grudge. But I'll ask my ex-wife.

 

Just seems like 1300 years is a long time to hold a grudge.........

That is just yesterday for the middle Easteners.

 

Just seems like 1300 years is a long time to hold a grudge. But I'll ask my ex-wife.

I know you think history started with the inauguration of George W. Bush, but, in reality, many of the conflicts around the world today have their roots going back even further than that.

 

Here is an interesting article from the LA Times
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-warrior-main-20150524-story.html

 

Just seems like 1300 years is a long time to hold a grudge. But I'll ask my ex-wife.

They didn't hold a grudge... in fact they had forgotten entirely about the Crusades until recently, when they had a political agenda to fill. Funny thing is, everybody seems to forget that the invaders were the muslims, and that the defenders were the Cursaders. This is my source. There are more sources like that one out there, Hilaire Belloc, for instance, and many others.

 

I know you think history started with the inauguration of George W. Bush, but, in reality, many of the conflicts around the world today have their roots going back even further than that.

But how can they blame it on the US. We weren't a country then.
No, I think the problem is much more recent than that.

 

But how can they blame it on the US. We weren't a country then.
No, I think the problem is much more recent than that.

They blame it on the US simply for its unwavering support of Israel, remember that both Christians and Jews are sworn enemies of islam.

 

Respectfully disagree (with #259). Yes, we are the recent target of their ire, but that's because we are the embodiment and driving force behind all that they hate: freedom for all, independent thought, technological change, and on and on.

They are children, lashing out at the world because they have discovered it is not to their liking. We impinge upon that by exporting our culture, and they hate us for that.