I have never said my way is the only way to think. What I have said is when someone makes alims they can not provide credible proof for I will call them out on it to whatever limits I feel fitting by my standards

Did you read the part you wrote about, " by my standards"? That gets to the whole thing I'm talking about. In the other thread it was all about "perceptions and bias". You believed what your side reported and we believed what our side reported. Did one outlet lie more than the other? Maybe, they all do to forward their agenda, politics like religion can be boiled down to two things, money and power. People like you and me will never have enough to influence the outcome of anything.

 

I note with interest the remarks from RAMARZX2 regarding the theory of parallel universes(universi). I have this idea that ALL the strange sightings we see,ghosts,UFOs, monsters etc. are "breakthroughs" from a parallel universe which in very close in "phase " to ours.
Physicists have postulated that these universe may exits. Many other people have talked about so-called "crystal vibrations" etc and such mystical stuff. while I can offer no proof, I suggest it would explain all the strange sightings over the years. A localized "break" or shift in "phase " between universes could occur and we see these ghosts etc, And the closer we are in "phase" with the other universe the more familiar are the things we see, eg relatives or people we know. But then again maybe its all crap!

This thread is becoming amazing to me. Finding out after 69 years on this Earth and always being told I was weird for thinking the way I do, that there are others that do see it from the same perspective as me. I would add to your list of things the feeling or seeing some thing in your 'peripheral' vision that when you really look isn't there. Can't remember the name but there was a horror movie years ago about a scientist that discovered a lens that let him see monsters and beings that occupied our space but was invisible to us.

Hopefully the trolling will be kept out so it can continue. But I'm not betting on that.

 

This thread is becoming amazing to me. Finding out after 69 years on this Earth and always being told I was weird for thinking the way I do, that there are others that do see it from the same perspective as me. Hopefully the trolling will be kept out so it can continue. But I'm not betting on that.

Don't be so bleak and keep the other Thread out of this one and it will continue. If you both would just PM each other would be best under the circumstances as it does not apply here.

kv

 

Even the Catholic Church is now on board with the acceptance there may be extraterrestrial life.
", José Gabriel Funes, head of the Vatican Observatory, said "Just as there is a multiplicity of creatures on earth, there can be other beings, even intelligent, created by God. This is not in contrast with our faith because we can't put limits on God's creative freedom"" From, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exotheology

 

Part 1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?annot...&feature=iv&src_vid=8ORLN_KwAgs&v=p-MNSLsjjdo

Part 2.

I had no idea Tyrion Lannister was a full-size physicist in real life.


Those are pretty interesting test results. Again like before, I'm not a physicist so I can't comment with any credibility, but as a layman it seems a bit "out there." I don't understand all of what was in the videos but I understand troubleshooting and basic experimentation. I have come up with some very long-winded explanations for observations that were based on flawed initial assumptions. The answer was actually quite simple but based on something I wasn't aware of.

I have no idea what I'm talking about but the explanations given in that video sound like my explanations when I'm missing information.

 

Even the Catholic Church is now on board with the acceptance there may be extraterrestrial life.
", José Gabriel Funes, head of the Vatican Observatory, said "Just as there is a multiplicity of creatures on earth, there can be other beings, even intelligent, created by God. This is not in contrast with our faith because we can't put limits on God's creative freedom"" From, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exotheology

I was going to point that out, but figured I would opt out because I like the sound of my own voice sometimes.

Other times not so much, especially when I put my foot out and someone stomps it hard reminding me of my fallacies.

kv

 

Recently, 1998, a political decision (UNESCO), designated Troy, from Greek mythology, as the Archaeological Site of Troy. The site was rediscovered in 1993.

Mythological stories may lose their mythological status, as more elements of the truth appear.

Then again, even stories that began with ... This is a no shitter ... Had elements of the truth.

 

Please be careful to stay on topic.

 

As the moment there is growing view that the parallel universe concept might works due to a possible 5th fundamental force (quantum eraser) they are now studying regarding quantum physics and how it interacts with the various aspects of reality and what defines it.

Apparently at the quantum interaction level nature seems to be showing it may have a sort of auto correct that cancels out the reality fragmentation effect that would be needed to spawn alternate realities thus leaving us with only the one we all exist in now.


Part 2.

Why do they think that the experiment reveals retrocausality (an oxymoron, i.e. the ability to influence the past of the Universe)? It simply doesn't.

• nothing can possibly become definite until the point of irreversible decoherence
• the correlations between the signal and idler photons are correlations, not causation.

http://motls.blogspot.com/2016/10/no-retrocausality-in-qm-delayed-choice.html?m=1

The Wikipedia article makes it obvious that there's an ongoing edit war between the crackpots who want to claim that there's some retrocausality and the people who haven't lost their mind.
...
This two-month-old PBS Spacetime video with 570,000 views and almost 99% of positive votes has led me to write this blog post. And it is another example of a source where almost every big claim is completely wrong and stupid. While it is absolutely stupid, these delusions are the very reason why certain people spend so much time with these convoluted experiments. The experimenters clearly want to deceive the readers and many of the readers clearly want to be deceived.

But if you think rationally about the text above and a few other blog posts, you may easily understand the full logic of quantum mechanics and the causal influences in it. The results of entanglement don't require and don't prove any communication at the moment of the measurement. There's never any retrocausality in Nature. If commutators of spacelike-separated fields vanish (like in quantum field theory), the choice "what to measure" doesn't affect any predictions for faraway (spacelike-separated) observations which is why there's no action at a distance (but when you actually know the results of your experiment, it does affect your expectations of the faraway results if there are correlations – and correlations are almost always there iff the two subsystems have interacted or been in contact in the past).

Quantum mechanics only predicts the final results of experiments: it is not possible to say what the "real properties of the system" were prior to the measurement; and it's unsurprising that everything that occurs before a measurement may influence its outcome.

 

Even the Catholic Church is now on board with the acceptance there may be extraterrestrial life.

The Catholic Church as been on board with the acceptance of the possibility of extraterrestrial life since the 16th century, btw.

 

It's possible there may be life other than the ones on earth.

 

It's possible there may be life other than the ones on earth.

I'd say it's practically a certainty, just by considering the sheer number of stars in the galaxy (more than 400 billion) and known galaxies (about another 400 billion)

 

I'd say it's practically a certainty, just by considering the sheer number of stars in the galaxy (more than 400 billion) and known galaxies (about another 400 billion)

I can't say for certainty, because I have not seen them.
We cannot put a limit on the ability or the power of who ever created us. So I say again, it is possible for some other form of life existing in another galaxy.

 

we can't put limits on God's creative freedom"

That's basically what I told my sister. I said, "Be careful what you say God can't do, after all, she might be black."

Trust me, that joke plays a lot better 30 years ago in Kentucky.

And please don't spend the rest of the Thread on this. It was only a joke at the expense of my narrow minded sister.

 

So I say again, it is possible for some other form of life existing in another galaxy.

So you're saying that the probability ρ of life in places other than earth is 0 < ρ <= 1 ... and I say that ρ ≈ 1 ...

 

So you're saying that the probability ρ of life in places other than earth is 0 < ρ <= 1 ... and I say that ρ ≈ 1 ... View attachment 130989

OK ....Now you are trying to confuse me.

 

OK ....Now you are trying to confuse me.

That was a joke, my friend... trying to express both our opinions in mathematical terms...

 

I quite like the multiverse concept...

http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2017/04/the-bizarre-world-of-evidence-for-alternate-universes/

 

That was a joke, my friend... trying to express both our opinions in mathematical terms...

Don't try to math me ?
Me not a mathematician.

 

Don't try to math me ?
Me not a mathematician.

Sorry. We all try to float a joke every once in a while and some of them don't go over at all.