My personal feeling is he was pure troll, someone who likes stirring other people up in his own way.

I simply don't understand that mentality. I frequent a bicycle forum and we have a similar issue there from time to time.

I just don't understand what people get out of trolling.

I enjoy coming to this forum. I learn a little bit and on rare occasion I get to help someone out. I find that very rewarding. I see no reward in trolling and Dexter spent a significant amount of time at it.

 

Agreed, but it exists. Just like there are evil people (not trolls). Both get an emotional gratification out of it. You don't have to understand it, but you do have to accept that it exists.

I like creating, and discussion with other knowledgeable people. It is what drew me to this site.

 

A recent study linked trolling to sadism

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-and-sadists-psychologists-claim-9134396.html

 

Dexter did not annoy me much. Probably because he posted most of the time while I was at sleep. And then I read his postings. I could not find any sense in his questions or his follow up postings. It was nothing more than a endless train of engineering babble with no meaning. So I regarded him as waste of time. However his behavior was very abusive to the forum. He deliberate wasted the time of many members in this forum. I hope the mods in the future will become more aware of this kind of abuse and take actions sooner. From what I understand, he had quite a bad reputation in other electronic forum before he started to post here. And in this case it is evident that it was the same person. If a person cause problems in one forum. The same person will most likely cause problems here to. Thinking otherwise would be quite naive.

 

The irony is that if everyone had followed the course many ended up doing by not answering his posts, he would not have had an audience.
Max.

 

The irony is that if everyone had followed the course many ended up doing by not answering his posts, he would not have had an audience.
Max.

Ah, but I noted there was often a new member who became sucked into his vortex. That lessened the impact of those who chose not to reply. As P.T. Barnum is purported to say (paraphrased), "there's one born every minute".

 

My personal feeling is he was pure troll, someone who likes stirring other people up in his own way.

Now as dust hopefully will settle. I think we can agree on that. I was wondering in the beginning if this was a person with some sort of disability. But ruled that out after a while

 

I simply don't understand that mentality. I frequent a bicycle forum and we have a similar issue there from time to time.

I just don't understand what people get out of trolling.
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There are a number of indicators of psychopathic personality type. One of the most important is that the psychopath derives pleasure from causing the suffering of others.

Remember the bully boy in school who would trip people over and think it was the best thing ever that they got skinned knees? Classic psychopath.

In the pre-internet days psychopaths generally needed to be big and tough to go around inflicting suffering on others. These days even scrawny little geek psychopaths can be successful in causing a lot of harm to a lot of people, via the internet.

Because of that, the numbers of psychopaths causing harm has increased because it's not just the big strong ones bullying people anymore. It can be a 12yr old girl or a skinny nerd bullying the football jocks.

I had close personal dealings with a psychopath once, and saw the web of harm that he caused everyone he came into contact with. Since then I keep an eye out for the indicators, they are quite easy to spot once you know what to look for.

http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http...0QFjAA&usg=AFQjCNEFUdrF96BkNfq_kq118XKyI75aiw

 

Still haven't got an answer to my question in post #53. When he comes back under a new name, and he will try, does he still get the "clean slate" treatment?????

So far he hasn't changed his IP address for his different persona's, that's how other forums catch him. Does he get to do this all over again?

 

I thought I had answered you, in post #54.

We'll do it in a civilized and calm way. We'll make a case against the new user and then apply a ban, only if it is warranted.

An IP match is not reason enough for a ban, only a lead.

 

AAC is a particularly relaxed and friendly forum.

The ban or suspension rate here is very low and most get along just fine.

Such incidents only come along every few years here at AAC.

So let us not sour things by dwelling on one particular incident.

 

Their bans, unlike Dexter's, are temporary, but I doubt they will be back.

I hate to prove you wrong but.......

HI
I'm Back

 

I hate to prove you wrong but.......

HI
I'm Back

Good to have you back this is my favoritte quote from you

The airframe isnt the only thing that needs its attitude changing

If you get a hard time again in this forum this quote from George Patton is for you

“Never let the enemy pick the battle site.”

 

I dont think I will get in anymore trouble, in 3 years of being on the net I've only got into trouble or a situation twice, both times same person involved.
I was banned for a while because my dad asked for it to be kept, he knows sometimes (very very rare) someone gets to me in a way I dont yet have the skill's to deal with the way I should.
I very much doubt I will get into that situation again, I need to learn to walk away even when I dont want to.

 

I thought I had answered you, in post #54.

We'll do it in a civilized and calm way. We'll make a case against the new user and then apply a ban, only if it is warranted.

An IP match is not reason enough for a ban, only a lead.

So when he comes back as a "new" member, it happens all over again? Post #54 had/has no answer that I can see. So what good is a "permanent ban" when all is forgiven with a new name?

Not trying to be obstinate, just trying to understand how it works.

 

So when he comes back as a "new" member, it happens all over again? Post #54 had/has no answer that I can see. So what good is a "permanent ban" when all is forgiven with a new name?

Not trying to be obstinate, just trying to understand how it works.

If he comes back and follow his old modus operandi. I think proper actions will taken. If he should come back to this forum and behave, I do really not care (speaking only for my self in this matter)

 

I have much regard for this blog.

The author lives on the other side of the globe from LG, but is a really helpful person.

http://www.physicsforums.com/blog.php?b=1594

 

So when he comes back as a "new" member, it happens all over again? Post #54 had/has no answer that I can see. So what good is a "permanent ban" when all is forgiven with a new name?

Not trying to be obstinate, just trying to understand how it works.

If he comes back with a different alias and pretends to be a different person, who does not cross any lines, then everything is fine.

If he comes back as himself, then he will be banned straightaway.

If he comes back under a different alias but with the same practices, then we'll probably reach the same conclusion a lot faster.

This is my guess about how things will play out; which is highly hypothetical, of course.

 

Shortbus hi,
I had a fair bit of time to think all this over, my dad let me read posts on his name while I was banned but I couldnt post.
First an observation I missed at first then got it. Like yourself and some others I was dismayed when all of a sudden several mods jumped in and starting helping him. WTF WTF WTF I thought, this is really rubbing salt in and looked like they were firmly siding with him.
One of the side effects I have with my Aspergers/OCD etc is everything has to be logical and follow lines or patterns, so them helping didnt fit my logic, so I had to understand it and think about it.
I might be wrong (very much doubt it) but it made sense in the end.
They jumped in and helped, AND WATCHED the reaction from DM, in many ways they took over the threads and gave him enough rope to either hang himself or pull himself out the hole. As it transpires he hung himself!
Ok we would like it to of been quicker, we always do. But on reflection I think the actions taken were clever, its hard to remember we are not privy to behind the curtain, now I have two views on it all and they conflict.
I think it was a bit clumsy at first and uncoordinated, in some ways they have come out and admitted it was a bit of a shambles (takes a large pair).
But then I think at least it didnt get as far as ETO, in fact by comparison it was a long way from that carnage. I have read and reread all of dexters posts here and on ETO, everything he posted over nearly 9 years, it sends shivers. What many wont realise or understand is he posted exactly the same style over 8+ years on different topics, there was no change at all.
Something about it really made me... sort of frightened, I get feelings about people, I see it as my gift for being born with some difficulties, its nothing voodoo or anything like that, but I am gifted with the ability to get a feel of what people are like, call it a good sense of intuition of people.
He made me unsettled and the read the more unsettled I was, its been put he may have had some problems above the neck like me, I got the feeling this is wrong. What gave me the willies was the fact I found a few (not many) solved threads, his reaction when a thread was solved was not good. You can kind of feel the anger in him when he gets his problem sorted, and never once did I find a proper thank you.
If he lived near me I would cross the road and avoid at all costs, there is something not right with him in a bad way.
The point thought is this.
The mods went from utter shambles confused, to plan B quickly, they took over the threads, this to me gave them control of the answers given. From what I saw he was guided directly to conclusions each time, but you notice to try and avoid this DM tried really hard to alter the initial question, he tried to pick out points and follow there path.
In the end I am sure thats what nailed him, so if am right then it was clever.

WHAT IF HE RETURNS?
Well thats interesting, I understand why this worries you because it did me. But dont worry he never changes his style, he is as easy to spot as a valve/tube in a transistor radio.
The moment he acts up I am sure you will see mods jumping straight in to 'HELP',I am also sure this time they will have the rope in there hands ready. In some ways I hope he is back, just sit back and watch my friend,once you kind of understand what happened its actually interesting to watch! You know how strongly I react to him shortbus, but next time I am sure we can relax, the dogs are awake and alert now as my dad say's.

TO THE MODS

I think I was treated harshly, I think some of the deleting was out of order and I dont agree, I dont have to agree, yes I have to accept, but I dont have to agree.

BUT sorry for my part I react badly to him, in the end good job! Please dont judge my actions by him though, because his is always a unique reaction, he is driven by some need to post like that and if you read as many past posts as me, you can clearly see his progression to mastery of that kind of thread.


To the Rest.

Jump in and help him all you can!!!! Its a real treat watching him when his problem gets solved!!! You will not believe the reaction lol, well worth helping him just to see it
LG back and behaving

 

Little Ghostman,

I have a soft spot for well-phrased paragraphs, so your post was particularly enjoyable to read.

I honestly wish DexterMccoy was your only button and from now you'll be able to tread the AAC forum a bit more unfazed, as we have to do.

Welcome back.