But the moment we see something, would you say it's still faith as such? Do we always have to trust our eyes? (As there are illusions as well) - If I start see angels etc, even religious people might not believe me. It would be something I should keep for myself. I've read many discussions between theists and atheists. Apparently, some very knowledgeable atheists appreciate the fact that God is a different "science" and can't be disproved by science. Some consider themselves agnostics. But some "strong atheists" go as far as saying, well, even though they can't "disprove" God as such, they say there's no reason to believe in God. So, after all, I have this feeling that every individual believes in what they want to believe, of course, there are some influences from the outside but still, it's more like a personal matter. And also it tends to be a fight of word choice. Do we really understand the deep nature of things?