I am having an undervoltage issue with raspberry pie and a 2.5 HDD

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Juanma Uanini

Joined May 18, 2017
5
Hello forum,
First of thank you for reading the post. Now, my project consist of creating a mini video game console with a couple of emulators from different old retro game consoles. The machine has a Raspberry Pi 3 model B and a 2.5 external HDD (USB 3.0) connected to the Pie via regular USB. The software used is called "Retropie".
I powered the whole thing using a AC/DC 5v 2a power supply and while everything runs OK I had some issues while testing Play Station 1 games (which requires more hard drive usage). Googling around I read that could be an amp problem so I bought a 5v 3a power supply (which I attached a female USB connector since it didn't have any) and I had more issues than before: the Pie tells me every time there is an undervoltage issue by displaying a little thunderbolt icon on the software I am using (retropie)... with the last power supply not only the icon displayed every time but it also took a lot more time to boot up.
So, how can I make sure that there is enough "power" for the HDD all the time?
Please, excuse my english.
Thank you for the time
 

dl324

Joined Mar 30, 2015
18,276
Welcome to AAC!

It could be a problem with voltage drop in the USB cable. The wire gauge in USB2 cables only need to be sized to handle 500mA with less than a half volt drop.
 

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Juanma Uanini

Joined May 18, 2017
5
Welcome to AAC!

It could be a problem with voltage drop in the USB cable. The wire gauge in USB2 cables only need to be sized to handle 500mA with less than a half volt drop.
Hi, thank you!
OK so that means I should consider using a "thicker" wire? How can I test that?
I'm sorry about that question, I am a bit new at electronics.
 

dl324

Joined Mar 30, 2015
18,276
You can measure the voltage on the Pi under load. A DVM might be able to show a voltage drop, but an oscilloscope would be better.

You could also try using a high quality cable. For example, one from a tablet or similar device that abuses the USB spec.
 

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Juanma Uanini

Joined May 18, 2017
5
You can measure the voltage on the Pi under load. A DVM might be able to show a voltage drop, but an oscilloscope would be better.

You could also try using a high quality cable. For example, one from a tablet or similar device that abuses the USB spec.
Will do and i will report back with the results. Thank you!
 

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Juanma Uanini

Joined May 18, 2017
5
Well, seems that a short micro USB to power did the trick. I tried a short micro USB cable I have (one from an old garmin... for charging) and I can now power the Pi directly and use its USB to power the HDD without any problem. It looks like I had some Voltage drop using long cheap cables.
By the way, i am using a 5v 2a power supply for the Pi and the HDD all together
Thank you guys!
 

ian field

Joined Oct 27, 2012
6,536
Welcome to AAC!

It could be a problem with voltage drop in the USB cable. The wire gauge in USB2 cables only need to be sized to handle 500mA with less than a half volt drop.
My USB external HDD has a special cable with 2 USB connectors to get enough current.

Its small enough to be a 2.5" HDD.
 
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