My 'time honored' remedy for 'frozen on rims'

I've never met that problem. Bottom line: The wheel has to come off and the axle shaft requires quite a bit more time and labor to locate and install. It seems the wheel must die, but I'm lost on a Chevy truck design.

My first search shows a half-shaft with CV joints and a splined drive. On my Ford, that spline is in a hub driving a flange which almost meets the backside of the wheel, but the disc brake is between the hub and the wheel. So your wheel stuck to the disc brake hub and the disc brake hub is also married to the drive flange?

I think this needs its own Thread, or an automotive site, because I really can't think of how to be helpful.

Further research shows that it always comes down to physical violence applied to the tire, not the rim. Another idea is a release agent between the wheel and the hub. Some say PB Blaster to get it loose. Some say anti-seize compound before you put the wheel on, but sometimes that washes out. I say, a thick piece of paper (poster board) between the wheel and the hub will always surrender, no matter how much rust it has absorbed.

 

I used anti-seize between my new brake rotors and the hub but not between the rotor and the wheel. I took care to keep anti-seize off the lug studs.

 

My first search shows a half-shaft with CV joints and a splined drive. On my Ford, that spline is in a hub driving a flange which almost meets the backside of the wheel, but the disc brake is between the hub and the wheel. So your wheel stuck to the disc brake hub and the disc brake hub is also married to the drive flange?

Not quite - it was an old (Ca. 1983) C/10 --- Hence the (housed) single-piece axle shaft extended from the rear differential gear to the backing plate where it emerged to form a flange which being bolted to the brake drum and rim via the lug bolts/nuts -- FWIW The hub in such designs is part of the flange - and, hence, the same piece as the shaft in toto...

Another idea is a release agent between the wheel and the hub. Some say PB Blaster to get it loose. Some say anti-seize compound before you put the wheel on, but sometimes that washes out. I say, a thick piece of paper (poster board) between the wheel and the hub will always surrender, no matter how much rust it has absorbed.

Indeed! Preventative measures (on the part of the previous owner) would have spared me much bother...

I would have raised it 2 or 3" off the ground...

Say what!? And 'recline' on the shed floor!

hit the rubber of the tire near the tread

Further research shows that it always comes down to physical violence applied to the tire

Been there tried that - and with a 20lbs hammer-- Trouble is the elasticity damps the 'shock' -- 'Tis a bit like attempting to operate a 'quarter-shrinker' with a 100H inductor in series with the discharge circuit

the axle shaft requires quite a bit more time and labor to locate

FWIW I find dealers and collectors to be the best contacts! IMNSHO new or NOS is the only option for safety-critical parts... --- Yes! Dealers! -- Their alacrity --once made to realize attainment of the 'impossible' is well worth their while-- is nothing short of amazing!

If that fails and anything breaks, to the junkyard.

Cardinal rule #1 -- Never but never dispose of a collectable!

The only twisting I expected in this thread, is from a tornado.

Point taken

So... It's been rainy and cool 'round here for the last few weeks - all of which suits me right down to the proverbial ground! -- Looking ahead - although I positively adore low temps (e.g. -50F -- Now! Now! -Don't laugh or shake your head until you've experienced it!) --- I despise snow! - guess one really can't win 'em all And if I hear just one more prediction based upon tiger moth larvae!....

Very best regards
HP

 

Cardinal rule #1 -- Never but never dispose of a collectable!

My impressions have changed.
A) Cardinal rule, machines are intended to be used until obsolete or consumed.
B) since when is a Chevy S10 a "Collectible?"

 

My impressions have changed.
A) Cardinal rule, machines are intended to be used until obsolete or consumed.
B) since when is a Chevy S10 a "Collectible?"

Gophert so it's none of my business but I say truck that retails for like $50k and resells like 30 years after for almost $200k qualifies as collectable or good day at auction or maybe both But I say you're right abt machines being poor investment for collectables cuz of totally unpredictable market and also European luxury cars just rot on vine! Also fwiw iirc it was c10 not s10. So I think it's too weird that utilitarian vehicles like GMCs and International Harvester Scouts appreciated big time but Italian sports cars always sold at loss Anyhow I'm happy for HP that she's into restoring old home entertainment equipment like Crosley radios and round tube TVs for hobby now cuz I say juggling tubes is more fun than painting wrecks!

 

Gophert so it's none of my business but I say truck that retails for like $50k and resells like 30 years after for almost $200k qualifies as collectable or good day at auction or maybe both But I say you're right abt machines being poor investment for collectables cuz of totally unpredictable market and also European luxury cars just rot on vine! Also fwiw iirc it was c10 not s10. So I think it's too weird that utilitarian vehicles like GMCs and International Harvester Scouts appreciated big time but Italian sports cars always sold at loss Anyhow I'm happy for HP that she's into restoring old home entertainment equipment like Crosley radios and round tube TVs for hobby now cuz I say juggling tubes is more fun than painting wrecks!

$200,000 for a C10? The only links I can find where the number 200000 is associated with a C10 is either 200000 miles or $200000 where the "$" means Argintinian pesos.

Is there some historical significant with the truck? Was it used by the Dallas city landscapers who mowed the grassy knoll of Dealey Plaza, or, used in the great 1973 movie, "the Driver", or, ...

 

Say what!? And 'recline' on the shed floor!

No, hit the tire with a sledge hammer like you're swinging at a golf ball.

 

Is there some historical significant with the truck?

It was one of a scant 100 C/10s manufactured during model years 1973-1987 (inclusive) wherin the fuel tank was located inside the frame rail as per 'special order' by (as I understand it) the US Govt (military?) -- In any event said light trucks featured a unique chassis and were likewise readily identifiable by their VINs

I fear @Aleph(0) may have left the wrong impression My avocation of collecting, restoring and trading 'vintage' and unique items is not and never has been for profit - but, rather, relaxation and enjoyment! -- Avarice is not one of my vices! -- Given a chance, however, syllogomania could be another matter

Best regards
HP

PS -- Aleph is correct! The truck was indeed a C/10 despite my misstatement (memory 'short circuit'?) that it featured AWD (in post #1217 on this thread)

 

My avocation of collecting, restoring and trading 'vintage' and unique items is not and never has been for profit - but, rather, relaxation and enjoyment!

Yeah ... that anecdote about busting your butt out trying to remove that rusted-welded axle part sounded rather relaxing and enjoyable to me

 

Yeah ... that anecdote about busting your butt out trying to remove that rusted-welded axle part sounded rather relaxing and enjoyable to me

If you've ever played, for instance, golf you'll know that even 'leisurely' pastimes have their... 'moments' (recall my 'fun' attempting to retrofit CRTs?) --- That said - I must confess to some difficulty in approaching my avocations with less passion than other areas of endeavor -- Old habits and all that...

Very best regards
HP

 

We're experiencing record highs for this time of year due to warm air currents from the US.
Or is that just Hot Air from Trump!
Max.

 

We're experiencing record highs for this time of year due to warm air currents from the US.
Or is that just Hot Air from Trump!
Max.

Canada must be Clinton land? Or at least the market.

 

Canada must be Clinton land? Or at least the market.

With Clinton, they won't have to build a wall to keep Americans out. A wall would be a huge drain on their economy - luckily a"no-touching zone" is already established (see video).

 

I live near the N.W. Angle mentioned there where the border cuts across a lake that is used by cottage owners, sailors, fishermen etc (from both sides), so it gets very messy when out for a day fishing or sailing!
Max.

 

I live near the N.W. Angle mentioned there where the border cuts across a lake that is used by cottage owners, sailors, fishermen etc (from both sides), so it gets very messy when out for a day fishing or sailing!
Max.

I used to live near there too.

It was always a "badge of honor" to come back from summer vacation to say your family went there. Then everyone had to discuss their own stories about how their dad got his directions screwed up and what happened with the border patrol and/or game warden.

 

The sun is shining brighter this morning. The birds and butterflies are happy.

The unicorns went to ground, though.

 

It is so unseasonably nice here, the geese are waiting until the last minute.
They are usually long gone by now.
Max.

 

Hell has frozen over.

 

“I am the punishment of God...If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.”
― Genghis Khan

 

― Genghis Khan

That monster was definitely a piece of work...