# How to mount capacitors that are discrete from a circuit board

#### Eddy67716

Joined Sep 28, 2020
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I am going to give my organ's power supply and overhaul soon to extend it's life. For the big electrolyte capacitors, used to smooth the recitied DC current; they were mounted using brackets but the new capacitors are smaller. (would that mean I bought the wrong type) What is the best way to mount them?

#### Delta prime

Joined Nov 15, 2019
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#### Delta prime

Joined Nov 15, 2019
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Too much too quickly, please take a photo if you can

#### Eddy67716

Joined Sep 28, 2020
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One pair of 6800uf 40 volt (I bought 50 volt) mounted in series for a 27 volt supply and
One pair of 10000uf 55 volt (I ended up getting 50 volt but I'm trying to make sure they wouldn't damage anything) also mounted in series for a 38 volt supply.

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#### SamR

Joined Mar 19, 2019
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Sounds like old paper caps with a mounting bracket band around them. The newer same value (or even higher) aluminum can electrolytics are definitely smaller.

#### Delta prime

Joined Nov 15, 2019
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One pair of 6800uf 40 volt (I bought 50 volt) mounted in series for a 27 volt supply
They're not mounted in series but the 50 volt would be okay
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One pair of 10000uf 55 volt (I ended up getting 50 volt but I'm trying to make sure they wouldn't damage anything)
You must meet or exceed existing tolerances of the capacitors do not use 50 volts for 55 volt cap.

#### Tonyr1084

Joined Sep 24, 2015
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27VAC rectified and filtered = (27 x 1.414) = 38.18VDC. 40V caps is close but 50V is better.
38VAC rectified and filtered = 53.73VDC. The 50V caps won't do. You'll need bigger. Even caps at 55VDC is too close to the filtered voltage of the power supply. I'd go with at least 60V (if they have them at that voltage) (Higher is better)

#### Eddy67716

Joined Sep 28, 2020
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Okay, so how do I mount them if the brackets are too big?

#### Tonyr1084

Joined Sep 24, 2015
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If heat is not a concern then Hot Melt Glue (or "HotSnot") should hold them fairly secure. What kind of environment are they in? High heat? Shock and vibration? Exposure to chemicals or other weather elements?

What sort of connections do the caps have? Screw terminals? Leads? Surface mount?

#### SamR

Joined Mar 19, 2019
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Usually, they are left hanging being far less weighty than the old paper ones. May want to put some spaghetti or shrink-wrap tubing on the leads for short circuit protection if needed.

#### Eddy67716

Joined Sep 28, 2020
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Two wires go to each terminal.

#### Delta prime

Joined Nov 15, 2019
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go to each terminal
Uh-oh oh oh you do know that there are lethal voltages adjacent to where you are working are you confident in your abilities be honest with yourself
Those fuses are not fast enough to protect you

#### Eddy67716

Joined Sep 28, 2020
22
I have a friend that helps me. He discharges them with a 15 watt 2Kohm resistor. I read the volts with my multimeter to make sure they are discharged.

#### Eddy67716

Joined Sep 28, 2020
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I would also short the live and neutral wires (Unplugged of course) with the resistor to discharge the snubbers capacitors.

#### Audioguru again

Joined Oct 21, 2019
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The schematic has a spelling error. It says Regulator when it should say Rectifier.

#### Eddy67716

Joined Sep 28, 2020
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The schematic has a spelling error. It says Regulator when it should say Rectifier.
I just assumed that was what rectifiers were called in the old days.

#### Delta prime

Joined Nov 15, 2019
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I just assumed that was what rectifiers were called in the old days
Be nice he has earned every ruffled feather.
Something to which I aspire too.

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#### Eddy67716

Joined Sep 28, 2020
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Once capacitors were known as condensers.

#### Alec_t

Joined Sep 17, 2013
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Okay, so how do I mount them if the brackets are too big?
Modify the brackets, or pack them out with something electrically insulating and unlikely to melt!