Good Morning, I do a lot of my own wiring, home repairs etc. I don't know if what I want is even possible so here it goes. I have a beautiful ceiling fan, that has 6 incorporated Edison bulbs, and has three speeds. The fan is power to the unit is controlled by one wall switch, the speeds and light are controlled via remote. The bulbs are part of the design. The lowest speed of the fan is super fast, and because of the number of lights, when lit, its too much. I already made the led mistake when I installed dimmer on the power supply, which did not change any fan speed. Dimmable LED Edison bulbs are super expensive and I dont think that will slow the slowest speed also. Is there something I can do that both slows down the speed and dims the lights? Can I do that separate from each other or will they always be tied together. Any help is appreciated so I don't burn the place down . I can't find a product manual but I did find a product link which is below. The handheld remote says Model UC 7080T , FCC ID: CHQ7080T 1 - takes- 9 Volt battery Thanks so much
https://www.lightingbydesign.biz/br...-rubbed-bronze-ceiling-fan/sku-V80-27386wiorb

 

The lights are together because you tied the fan and light wires together You should of ran a black wire for fan and a red wire for light to ceiling box then your fan should have black for fan and blue for lights

Like this

Then you use dimmer for leds that is made to dim led lights not all will work with them.

 

The drawing makes no sense at all!! Each "block"is unknown. What are they supposed to be????

Ceiling fans normally have three wires, a white wire which is the mains NEUTRAL side connection,which is the common side for both the fan and the lights, and a black wire that supplies the fan motor and a blue wire that supplies the lights.
In the drawing I do not see any remote control device for ether the fan or the lights.

 

Your wrong ceiling fans have four wires so you can wire the fan independent of the light
And any haft ass electrician will put two switches to control the fan and the light

here this is little better


This is how the OP needs his fan and lights I fix the pic it was wrong

 

The speed and brightness of the unit is controlled internally, placing any kind of speed/dimming control in line with the power is probably a bad idea.

I'm thinking you are probably out of luck without going inside the unit and hacking the electronics.

I could be wrong, but that's my opinion.

 

In defense of things I've done over the years is this: As far as fan speed control goes, I've installed a remote control module that allows the fan to be run on High, Medium and Low. In addition the lighting circuit is also controlled via holding a button and cycling through a range of brightness ranging from about half bright to full bright then back to half then back to full. More on the lights in a moment.

The remote can operate the fan on High, Medium and Low. But this presumes the pull chain has the fan set to High. IF you set the pull chain to Medium then the remote will give you three speeds between the lowest speed and the medium(est) speed. IF you set the pull chain to Low then the best you can get is Low, Lower and Lower Still. This is exactly what I have done.

At night I want the fan on low. But even on low, blowing down on the bed can make me chilly. Using the remote I can go to Full Low (which is about the same as standard Low without a remote), or I can go remote (to medium) resulting in fan speed of Lower than Low. With the remote set to Low and the fan set to Low I get Ultra-Low, which barely moves any air. Perfect for what I want.

The breakdown of using the two separate settings is this:
High (pull chain) High (remote) results in "High".
High (pull chain) Medium (remote) results in "Medium".
High (pull chain) Low (remote) results in "Low".

Medium (pull chain) High (remote) = "Medium".
Medium (pull chain) Medium (remote) = "<Medium / >Low"
Medium (pull chain) Low (remote) = "<Low"

Low (pull chain) High (remote) = "Low".
Low (pull chain) Medium (remote) = "Lower than Low"
Low (pull chain) Low (remote) = "Lowest"

So running the fan on even lower speeds than designed for is possible.

 

Lighting using the dimmer and LED lamps:
I've done this using all but one lamp being LED. The one lone lamp is incandescent. Having the incandescent bulb in parallel with the other LED's will result in dimming as described in post # 6

Here's a video:

 

Based on the remote info you gave, your fan most likely has this type of "receiver". There is nothing you can do, you are at the mercy of the receiver design. Your wall switch simply switches power to receiver. The remote communicates with receiver to control fand speed and lights. There are "dip" switches on this unit that may provide options. You would need to go into base of your fan and look at its receiver and get a part number,

 

Based on the remote info you gave, your fan most likely has this type of "receiver". There is nothing you can do, you are at the mercy of the receiver design. Your wall switch simply switches power to receiver. The remote communicates with receiver to control fand speed and lights. There are "dip" switches on this unit that may provide options. You would need to go into base of your fan and look at its receiver and get a part number,

That looks pretty much like the remotes I have installed in over 5 fans. They all work as described in post #6. In a few cases I was able to run Black / Red / White (Green) (14-3 conductor) and use two switches. One for the lights and one for the fan. But in the case where I only had H, N & G I've hooked them up as follows:

Hidden inside the lamp base (half circle at the top) is where I put the remote receiver. Black to Black (receiver) White to White (receiver) and Ground to Ground. The remote receiver has Fan (black) Lights (blue) and White (neutral).

The drawing shows that the lamps are wired via the blue wire to all the bulbs. White goes to both the lights and fan motor neutral while the black goes to the fan motor. From there you can dim the lights as seen in the video, and as described in #6 you can set the fan via the pull chain. Using the remote you can get lower speeds. In NO case can you ever get a higher speed. Best you can get is High High, High Medium, High Low, Medium High, Medium Medium, Medium Low, Low High, Low Medium and Low Low. Basically 5 speeds; 1) High, 2) High Medium, 3) Medium, 4) Medium Low 5) and Low.

 

Where I had two hots, neutral and ground:

The red wire brought HOT to the lights while the black wire brought HOT to the fan.

 

Just for sake of making my point about LED's parallel with an incandescent lamp I've built receivers that have outputs of high, medium and low all based off of a touch wire. Plugged lamps into them (two of them) with parallel LED's and Incandescent lamps. I achieve three levels of brightness all with the touch of a bare wire. The modules were designed to be built into a touch lamp with the touch wire grounded to the lamp housing so that when a person touched the metal lamp body the light would come on Low. Touch again, Medium. Touch again, High. Touch again, Off. The wires hide behind my headboard, my side and my wife's side. Hers controls a lamp on her side of the bed without having to roll out of the bed to turn the lamp on or off. My side is the same thing with a lamp on my side of the bed. It works. Even with a small incandescent, the LED's can be dimmed with conventional dimmers.

 

Your wrong ceiling fans have four wires so you can wire the fan independent of the light
And any haft ass electrician will put two switches to control the fan and the light

here this is little better
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This is how the OP needs his fan and lights I fix the pic it was wrong

OK, I was not counting the green safety ground wire as part of the power circuit. ALSO, know that in my part of the world, it has been for several years a requirement that the mains feed go to the box for the ceiling light/fan installation. That is so that the fan can remain operational while the single switch controls the light.

 

The speed and brightness of the unit is controlled internally, placing any kind of speed/dimming control in line with the power is probably a bad idea.

I'm thinking you are probably out of luck without going inside the unit and hacking the electronics.

I could be wrong, but that's my opinion.

I'm thinking you might be right (I did not install this fan), but I pulled the ceiling mount down, I think I would have to take the full unit apart, there is no chain, for either light or fan, I can only control either with the remote, the switch provides power to the full unit and there are toggles inside the remote under neath the battery, 2 on toggles and 2 off toggles. there's a receiver built into the side of the unit, that says ionizer (I guess for dust ???) I think this fan is too smart for what I would like - thanks for the reply

 

In defense of things I've done over the years is this: As far as fan speed control goes, I've installed a remote control module that allows the fan to be run on High, Medium and Low. In addition the lighting circuit is also controlled via holding a button and cycling through a range of brightness ranging from about half bright to full bright then back to half then back to full. More on the lights in a moment.

The remote can operate the fan on High, Medium and Low. But this presumes the pull chain has the fan set to High. IF you set the pull chain to Medium then the remote will give you three speeds between the lowest speed and the medium(est) speed. IF you set the pull chain to Low then the best you can get is Low, Lower and Lower Still. This is exactly what I have done.

At night I want the fan on low. But even on low, blowing down on the bed can make me chilly. Using the remote I can go to Full Low (which is about the same as standard Low without a remote), or I can go remote (to medium) resulting in fan speed of Lower than Low. With the remote set to Low and the fan set to Low I get Ultra-Low, which barely moves any air. Perfect for what I want.

The breakdown of using the two separate settings is this:
High (pull chain) High (remote) results in "High".
High (pull chain) Medium (remote) results in "Medium".
High (pull chain) Low (remote) results in "Low".

Medium (pull chain) High (remote) = "Medium".
Medium (pull chain) Medium (remote) = "<Medium / >Low"
Medium (pull chain) Low (remote) = "<Low"

Low (pull chain) High (remote) = "Low".
Low (pull chain) Medium (remote) = "Lower than Low"
Low (pull chain) Low (remote) = "Lowest"

So running the fan on even lower speeds than designed for is possible.

There are no pull chains, or switch to even change direction on this fan, and no switch on the fan itself for the lights, everything is controlled by the remote. The single switch powers the entire unit. 12-2, The lighting and motor for fan are all contained inside the same housing (not like a light kit added) so I'm guessing inside the unit is where the power supply is sent to the receiver splitting the signal. I haven't pulled the fan apart, was hoping to see if even possible before I did that. Thanks for your reply

 

Based on the remote info you gave, your fan most likely has this type of "receiver". There is nothing you can do, you are at the mercy of the receiver design. Your wall switch simply switches power to receiver. The remote communicates with receiver to control fand speed and lights. There are "dip" switches on this unit that may provide options. You would need to go into base of your fan and look at its receiver and get a part number,

Thank you I believe you are right. There are no external controls on this fan, only thru the remote. Before I dig into the fan to find the receiver, is it even possible that a different receiver or dip switches with current receiver would be able to set a different lower speed? Honestly I can live without the lighting, but I live in south texas and my choices are dripping of sweat or in 5 minutes of the fan being on absolutely freezing. Not gonna pull it apart unless I know if its even possible in theory. Thanks

 

One caution I offer is that one of the fans I worked on that had the remote control had a switch to select which kind of light, florescent, incandescent, or LED, because the dimming schemes are quite different. IF it has that it must be set correctly.
The big benefits of the remote are that the batteries go dead, and that the remote becomes misplaced. Not all benefits are positive.

 

I believe the DIP switches are for selecting the codes the fan and remote use.

But it's worth a look into their function.

 

One possible option is that for some fan systems the remote control is a separate module, so that it can be removed entirely and then wired control would be available. Since the main benefit of the remote control is found in the instances where only a single on/off control is the only choice, that might be a consideration.
I have had to replace the remote control package on a HUNTER fan for a client. It was much less expensive at a home improvement store than it would have been from the fan company direct. With rather poor instructions on how to make it work, after installation. I will never buy that brand again.

 

According to this the fan speed and lamps are controlled separately.

7080T Remote Control Transmitter User Manual Rhine Electronics (fccid.io)

 

There are no pull chains, or switch to even change direction on this fan, and no switch on the fan itself for the lights, everything is controlled by the remote.

Just realized there IS one fan I own that does not have chains or directional switches. It's my patio fan. And it does not fall under the purview of my earlier statements. Yes, it's a "Smart" fan and I find it difficult to control from time to time. So it looks like you can disregard my earlier statements.