"...during a flight from San Francisco..."

Business as usual, then?

Spoiler

https://www.miyagi.sg/2015/05/the-dance-of-the-flaming-arseholes-a-royal-australian-navy-tradition/

Yes, but more Brit than San Fran.

 

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a8HXNACXUUo

 

Wide open turn lane, classic.

 

 

The same idiots shouted "Defund the police!" five years ago. Sow and reap.

 

The same idiots shouted "Defund the police!" five years ago. Sow and reap.

This.


One of those guy will be the new Batman. We don't need the police.

 

When I was young, we did our street racing on Decatur Rd or Street Rd... way off of the beaten path.

And it never lasted very long because the cops were very keen on stopping it.

Correction, it wasn't Street RD it was another, but I can't remember the name now.

 

When I was young, we did our street racing on Decatur Rd or Street Rd... way off of the beaten path.

And it never lasted very long because the cops were very keen on stopping it.

The cops in Portland just don't care anymore because the city cares more about drug users than the taxpayer. Keeping that crap in Portland is that main duty for those that live near that cesspool.
NSFW language

Spoiler

The cops don't even show today.

These street racing/slideshow clowns don't come out here in the hicks as the local sheriff has made it known, they will block the roads with construction equipment so they can't leave, will thrash the criminals, destroy their car and put them in the local jail.


Too bad this one is closed.

 

Well, our cops were a little more civilized, but they would impound your car.

Of course we didn't behave like these kids today.

 

Well, our cops were a little more civilized, but they would impound your car.

Of course we didn't behave like these kids today.

The cops deal with the barbarians, be a barbarian, get treated like one, on both sides.

 

 

The aircraft, featuring a high-density seating configuration, was carrying 524 people. The crash killed all 15 crew members and 505 of the 509 passengers on board, leaving only four survivors.

 

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Hello,

Boeing 787 Dreamliner Crashes on Takeoff with 242 on Board
https://www.thedailybeast.com/boeing-air-india-passenger-plane-carrying-200-crashes-after-takeoff/

Bertus

 

Hello,

Boeing 787 Dreamliner Crashes on Takeoff with 242 on Board
https://www.thedailybeast.com/boeing-air-india-passenger-plane-carrying-200-crashes-after-takeoff/

Bertus

I've just seen the story on the news. It's too hard to make out sufficient details from the video, but my best guess (and that is all it is) is that they accidentally retracted the flaps instead of the landing gear, causing the aircraft to mush down into the ground. Normally, the gear are retracted within seconds of take-off in order to reduce the drag as much as possible as quickly as possible. At this point in flight, this big hunk of metal is in a state of confusion on whether it wants to identify as an airplane or as a automobile, so you really need to get the airspeed up as quickly as possible. But you are also trying to flee the ground as quickly as possible, since the ground is NOT your friend, so you need as much lift as possible. At low speed, that additional lift is provided by the flaps and slats, but they also increase drag significantly -- that's good on a landing, but bad on a takeoff. So when you takeoff, you start with max thrust, flaps extended for takeoff and (obviously) gear extended, then you retract the qear as soon as possible to get rid of that drag so that you can accelerate as quickly as possible while the flaps give you the extra lift needed to maintain your climb (at takeoff speed, they are needed just to hold altitude, as well). Once you have attained sufficient airspeed and altitude, you can retract the flaps to get rid of that extra drag and allow you to accelerate to your cruise speed and altitude. If you accidentally retract the flaps instead of the gear (and this would not be the first time that this has happened), the plane no longer has sufficient lift to even maintain altitude, but would have enough to make a controlled and fairly gentle descent, which is exactly what it looks like happened. Assuming that this is what happened (and it is a big assumption at this point), the crew has to be johnny-on-the-spot to recover. They have just a few seconds to analyze and recognize their mistake and re-extend the flaps and they have to do that quickly before they've lost too much altitude and have established too great a descent rate, otherwise sheer inertia will put them in the ground before the restored lift can arrest the descent. Since we would be talking about a crew that, for whatever reason, would make such a fundamental mistake in the first place, it would not be surprising that this same crew would be unable to recognize and correct the error in the few seconds that mattered. Underscoring this is that, apparently, the plane made a Mayday call. That was also a big mistake, robbing them of time and mental bandwidth to deal with the immediate (very, very immediate) problem at hand. It's a violation of the three -ates of aviation: Aviate, Navigate, Communicate -- In That Order!

I will not be surprised if this turns out to be yet another example, in a long string of examples, of inadequate crew training and proficiency in basic flight skills and emergency procedures. Lots of airlines in many countries have become far too reliant on the automated capabilities of modern aircraft and don't want to (and, may not be financially able to) expend the money needed to really bring their aircrews up to top quality and, just as important, keep them there. It is extremely expensive, especially if you can't afford to own and operate (or gain access to) the kind of simulators that are needed to do it without burning lots of jet fuel and putting lots of extra time on your airframes.

 

28-year-old student says she missed Air India flight that crashed due to traffic: "This is totally a miracle for me"​

Bhoomi Chauhan reportedly said airline staff didn't let her complete her check-in at Ahmedabad airport even though she had checked in online. She said she arrived at the airport less than an hour before departure — and 10 minutes after boarding was scheduled to start — after being stuck in Ahmedabad's city center traffic.

 

 

 

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/13/nx-s1-5432566/india-plane-crash-survivor

The sole survivor of the Air India crash that killed over 240 people also doesn't know how he made it out alive.

But, lying in a hospital bed on Friday morning, Viswashkumar Ramesh did his best to explain.

"I can't believe myself how I came out of it alive, because for a while I thought I was going to die as well," Ramesh told Indian national broadcaster DD News. "But when I opened my eyes, I saw that I was alive. So I tried to open my seat belt, and I was able to get out."

 

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/13/nx-s1-5432566/india-plane-crash-survivor

The sole survivor of the Air India crash that killed over 240 people also doesn't know how he made it out alive.

But, lying in a hospital bed on Friday morning, Viswashkumar Ramesh did his best to explain.

"I can't believe myself how I came out of it alive, because for a while I thought I was going to die as well," Ramesh told Indian national broadcaster DD News. "But when I opened my eyes, I saw that I was alive. So I tried to open my seat belt, and I was able to get out."

Yesterday the news was interviewing some official in India who, after admitting that she knew nothing about what happened, said that he must have been seated in an exit row and managed to force the door open and jump out just before the plane crashed.

Sheesh.

While I'm glad that anyone survived, I can only imagine the survivor's guilt and PTSD he might be in for. I hope he gets the support he is likely to need.