Glad I'm not a passenger

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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I'm enjoying this new crowdsourcing of information. X is spectacular at this.

It helps me to exercise my critical thinking skills -- as opposed to "experts" telling me what I'm supposed to think. I wish others would see it as that.
Trusted experts are still important. Critical thinking skills is not a substitute for actual knowledge from training and experience. You can be logically correct and totally wrong. The ability to perform critical thinking in a meaningful way requires domain-specific knowledge.
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
6,338
Trusted experts are still important. Critical thinking skills is not a substitute for actual knowledge from training and experience. You can be logically correct and totally wrong. The ability to perform critical thinking in a meaningful way requires domain-specific knowledge.
I'll trust my own mind before that of any random self-professed "expert". And that includes the assessment of such expert's expertise.
 

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cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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I'll trust my own mind before that of any random self-professed "expert". And that includes the assessment of such expert's expertise.
I get your point. But in my case, I came to the conclusion that you're eventually going to have to trust someone if you want to get somewhere. I trust academia telling me about Newton's laws and relativity. And then after I've thoroughly understood them I start questioning their validity see how far they can be tested ... if I ever got the time (and interest) for that.

Another case in point is trust in medical science. Of course there's plenty of quacks out there that one should watch out for. But finding a good doctor, and then trusting his advice is essential. I had a good friend once (who was particularly stubborn and obstinate) that practically ended up killing himself because he thought that his doctor was not prescribing a cancer treatment aggressive enough. And after some "research" on his part, he finally found a doctor that told him he'd be glad to subject him to the treatment he wanted, but if, and only if he "signed here" ... The treatment worked too well ... destroying most of the cancerous cells along with his main internal organs. He passed away in extreme physical discomfort.
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
6,338
I get your point. But in my case, I came to the conclusion that you're eventually going to have to trust someone if you want to get somewhere. I trust academia telling me about Newton's laws and relativity. And then after I've thoroughly understood them I start questioning their validity see how far they can be tested ... if I ever got the time (and interest) for that.

Another case in point is trust in medical science. Of course there's plenty of quacks out there that one should watch out for. But finding a good doctor, and then trusting his advice is essential. I had a good friend once (who was particularly stubborn and obstinate) that practically ended up killing himself because he thought that his doctor was not prescribing a cancer treatment aggressive enough. And after some "research" on his part, he finally found a doctor that told him he'd be glad to subject him to the treatment he wanted, but if, and only if he "signed here" ... The treatment worked too well ... destroying most of the cancerous cells along with his main internal organs. He passed away in extreme physical discomfort.
You trust actions and results. Not words.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
16,359
https://www.dvidshub.net/news/489832/gettysburg-holds-sea-change-command-ceremony
The CO of the ship that shot down the F-18 has a normal change of command. It's been a while with no news about what happened but IMO it sure looks like the fly boys were asking for it.
Despite several ongoing investigations into the friendly fire incident looming over the ship and its crew, Navy officials said Hodges was leaving the ship under regular circumstances and that the change of command was occurring on schedule.
 
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