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cmartinez

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That last post sort of reminds me of this actor ... Dudley Moore .. if I remember correctly, he had a medical condition that sometimes made him act as if he were drunk. That got him in trouble more than once.
 

nsaspook

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-sa...own-14-drones-in-red-sea-launched-from-yemen/

An American destroyer on Saturday shot down more than a dozen drones in the Red Sea launched from Huthi-controlled areas of Yemen, the U.S. Central Command said.
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Container shipping giant Maersk has ordered ships approaching the Red Sea to halt voyages after Houthi missile strikes on commercial ships in the area.

Mediterranean Shipping Company announced in a news release on Saturday that their ships "will not transit the Suez Canal Eastbound and Westbound," after a container ship transiting the Red Sea on Friday was attacked.

IMO we will see a carrier strike on launch/command and control sites very soon.
Sure, Iran forced them to leave the Gulf.

They are likely heading south to the Red Sea.
 
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WBahn

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Sounds like a pretty classic case of get-there-itis.

The most critical decision in the aeronautical decision making process is the decision to start the engine.

I don't know what their actual experience was in instrument conditions. Given the types of missions they were flying in Afghanistan, they possibly had very little since air drops generally need pretty good visibility.

It's pretty common for pilots to be at a point (on more than one occasion in their career) where they have enough skill and experience to believe that they can accomplish a task, but not enough skill and experience to either actually do it, or recognize that they can't. This is where risk assessment becomes paramount -- just because you believe that you can do something, does not absolve you of evaluating the risk and deciding that you shouldn't. It's really summed up nicely in that old saying from the earliest days of aviation -- There's old pilots, and there's bold pilots, but there's damn few old bold pilots.

There's a famous quote from some Air Force general that I'm paraphrasing pretty loosely here: Whenever a pilot dies because of "pilot error", we must remember that, often, in the few seconds that mattered, they drew upon all of their training, knowledge, and experience and made a decision -- a decision that they believed in so strongly that they staked their very life on it (as well as the lives of everyone else on board). That it was the wrong decision is not just a tragedy, but something that we must then strive to understand and take steps to ensure that future pilots that find themselves in a similar situation will have had better training, better knowledge, and better experience to draw upon so as to make a better decision.
 

nsaspook

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https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/22/poli...iran-houthi-rebels-attacks-red-sea/index.html

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The US on Friday released newly declassified intelligence that suggests Iran has been “deeply involved in planning the operations against commercial vessels in the Red Sea,” National Security Council spokesperson Adrienne Watson told CNN.
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In a show of force, the U.S. aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower has entered the Gulf of Aden, with a series of news reports saying President Joe Biden's administration is weighing military strikes if the ship attacks persist.

Rebel leader Abdel-Malek al-Houthi warned Wednesday that if they were attacked, the rebels would strike back against "American battleships, American interests and American navigation."

The White House said that U.S. visual analysis found nearly identical features between Iran's KAS-04 drones and the unmanned vehicles fired by the Houthis, as well as consistent features between Iranian and Houthi missiles.
https://www.vesseltracker.com/en/Ships/Behshad-9167289.html
NEW SPY SHIP IN RED SEA
Sun Aug 08 15:49:38 CEST 2021
Timsen
Iran has pulled back to port the damaged spy ship 'Saviz' in the Red Sea and replaced it with a new spy ship, the 'Beshdad', according to satellite images which showed the vssel sailing into and stopping near the Bab el-Mandeb Strait. The cargo vessel is believed to be a spy ship gathering intelligence in the strategic waterway for Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps. It had set sail from the port of Bandar Abbas in early July, and arrived in the Bab el-Mandeb nine days later. A few days after the arrival of the Behshad another Iranian ship registered as a cargo vessel, the 'Saviz', was seen by satellite being pulled away by two tugs. She had patrolled the Bab el-Mandeb Strait since 2016, but was damaged in April, when a limpet mine, attached to the vessel, exploded. It was widely believed that Israel was responsible for the attack. As well as monitoring traffic in the strategic waterway, the spy ships are thought to also be engaged in help the Iran-backed Houthi rebels fighting in Yemen.
https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/details/9167289
 

nsaspook

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Like a Mission Impossible stunt.
https://nypost.com/2023/12/24/news/father-son-stop-out-of-control-semi-truck-on-kansas-highway/
Father, son daringly stop out-of-control semi-truck after driver passed out on Kansas highway: ‘We’re just good farm guys’
It was an action movie come to life.

A Kansas farmer and his son are being hailed as heroes after they made a daring rescue of a semi-truck driver who suffered a medical episode on a highway.
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The truck had slowed down enough that the son, Brady Ginther, was able to jump onto the vehicle’s passenger side. He tried to get inside, but the door was locked.

Ginther asked his father, Brent Ginther, to throw him a hammer. He caught it and then smashed the window, crawled into the truck and brought it to a stop about one-eighth of a mile before a 30-foot drop.
 
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