Glad I'm not a passenger

MrAl

Joined Jun 17, 2014
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I think that the lens used helped exaggerate the perspective so as to make it look more dramatic. But the scene is authentic alright. There are pics capturing the same moment from different locations, plus a video clip.
Hello there,

Yes, it's trick photography.

I used to do a lot of photography and found there are a lot or tricks you can use to get special effects like that. That is because the photograph is two dimensional while the scene is three dimensional. When we can't experience that third dimension, part of the scene gets lost forever. That's one of the things I worried about when it comes to self-driving cars.
Nothing says it better though than the work of M.C. Escher who made art that exploits this loss of dimension unequivocally clear. For example:
Relativity

and:
Waterfall
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
16,351
https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/23/europe/russia-wagner-prigozhin-plane-crash-intl/index.html
Mercenary chief who staged mutiny in Russia is listed as a passenger on a plane that crashed, state media says

Yevgeny Prigozhin, the chief of Russian mercenary group Wagner, was on the passenger list of a plane that crashed north of Moscow, according to Russian state media.

The official Russian news agency TASS said the Federal Air Transport Agency has launched an investigation into the crash of an Embraer aircraft, which occurred in the Tver region north-east of Moscow on Wednesday.

“An investigation has been launched into the crash of the Embraer aircraft, which occurred tonight in the Tver region. According to the list of passengers, among them is the name and surname of Yevgeny Prigozhin,” the department noted.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-66599774
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
32,933
As the dad of a teenage girl who's just started driving, this scares the crap out of me.
My daughter is just learning to drive, too, and while that particular story doesn't scare me too much (perhaps because I have misplaced faith in my daughter's judgment, particularly in who she chooses as friends -- something which, to this point, has been amply demonstrated and earned), I do worry because inexperienced drivers make lots of mistakes (which, if they survive, is how they become experienced drivers) AND teenagers are more easily lulled into doing stupid things without thinking of the consequences. Still, I think she will make better decisions than I sometimes did as a teen driver.
 

djsfantasi

Joined Apr 11, 2010
9,237
My daughter is just learning to drive, too, and while that particular story doesn't scare me too much (perhaps because I have misplaced faith in my daughter's judgment, particularly in who she chooses as friends -- something which, to this point, has been amply demonstrated and earned), I do worry because inexperienced drivers make lots of mistakes (which, if they survive, is how they become experienced drivers) AND teenagers are more easily lulled into doing stupid things without thinking of the consequences. Still, I think she will make better decisions than I sometimes did as a teen driver.
Massachusetts has a junior driver law. There is a couple year waiting period before they can drive with a passenger other than a family member. My son went driving with friends because as he said to me, “I wasn’t driving my friends around.” Budding lawyer. But he got off. Seems since he was a big boy, the cops handed him the keys to drive his friends home. What saved his butt was he didn’t take the keys and told the police driver he was a junior driver. Oh, and certainly I explained the flaw in his reasoning.
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
6,337
My daughter is just learning to drive, too, and while that particular story doesn't scare me too much (perhaps because I have misplaced faith in my daughter's judgment, particularly in who she chooses as friends -- something which, to this point, has been amply demonstrated and earned), I do worry because inexperienced drivers make lots of mistakes (which, if they survive, is how they become experienced drivers) AND teenagers are more easily lulled into doing stupid things without thinking of the consequences. Still, I think she will make better decisions than I sometimes did as a teen driver.
Likewise, I think mine has more horsesense than the girl in the story, but, dammit, I was a teenager, too, once.

Sometimes I think it's amazing so many of us survive to adulthood.
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
6,337
Likewise, I think mine has more horsesense than the girl in the story, but, dammit, I was a teenager, too, once.

Sometimes I think it's amazing so many of us survive to adulthood.
And I find it really hard to believe that I was actually as smart as I thought I was.

Definitely lucky, though.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
32,933
Massachusetts has a junior driver law. There is a couple year waiting period before they can drive with a passenger other than a family member. My son went driving with friends because as he said to me, “I wasn’t driving my friends around.” Budding lawyer. But he got off. Seems since he was a big boy, the cops handed him the keys to drive his friends home. What saved his butt was he didn’t take the keys and told the police driver he was a junior driver. Oh, and certainly I explained the flaw in his reasoning.
We also have a graduated privileges program. For the first six months after they get their license they can't have anyone under the age of 21 in the vehicle unless there is a licensed driver over the age of 21 in the passenger seat. In the second six months, they can have one passenger under the age of 21 without requiring a licensed driver over 21 in the passenger seat. And at no time during that year is more than one passenger allowed in the front. Plus there is absolutely no cell phone use and no driving between midnight and 5 am. There is also a zero tolerance for alcohol -- blowing any amount is cause for suspension. These restrictions have exceptions for emergencies and things like documented need to drive during curfew for work or school.

The claim is that teen driving deaths have dropped 50% since they put these rules in place, but of course there are other factors at play, too.

But, when I think back to the more stupid things I did (I'm talking Dukes of Hazzard kind of crap), it always involve having several friends in the car that, obvious in hindsight, I was trying to impress more than anything.
 
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