A truly bad practice...

Unless there is rum in that coke. Then it's ok.

 

A truly bad practice, in any vehicle:

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What could go wrong?

https://worldofaviation.com/2020/09/no-use-crying-over-spilt-coffee-airbus-redesigns-a350-cockpit/

Airbus has officially overhauled its A350 cockpit control panel, following earlier reports of engine failure caused by the aircrew’s spilt beverages.

The planemaker has developed a new integrated liquid-resistant control panel within its A350 aircraft, which will protect the engine systems from damage due to accidental drink spills.

This follows two incidents in the last eight months in which A350-900s were forced to divert due to single engine shutdowns, caused by beverages being spilt on the flat centre console of the cockpit.

 

A truly bad practice, in any vehicle:

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This falls under "human factors engineering".

The aircrew WILL be eating and drinking in the cockpit. Even if that weren't allowed by rules, it's still going to happen. Plus, on long flights the aircrew has to be able to eat and drink, so is it better to make them leave the cockpit to do so, or make it so that they can do it safely in the cockpit? The latter is the pretty clear winner. And, again, even if they were required to leave by some rule, there is still going to be food and beverages in the cockpit. Human factors has to take into account what humans WILL do, not what they are SUPPOSED to do.

So cockpits need to be designed with this in mind. There needs to be a convenient place for them to place food and beverages -- if there isn't, then they WILL put them any place that is more convenient (see above). Places where food and beverages should definitely NOT be placed need to be made very inconvenient to be used as such -- such as no flat surfaces or nooks where cups can be set or lodged. Furthermore, cockpits need to be designed with spills in mind. A pilot taking a drink of water when sudden turbulence is encountered may send that water anywhere -- so critical controls need to be made resistant to spills, whether it's by shielding them, sealing them, or whatever.

 

Unless there is rum in that coke. Then it's ok.

ummmm, I'm pretty sure that's coffee ... in which case there should be whiskey, not rum ...

 

I'm pretty sure that's coffee...

I thought it was, too. But then I saw the fizzies.

Slightly off topic, we Italians like Sambuca in our espresso.

 

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Support falcons? I guess they are working birds.

Reminds me of the story a while ago of a passenger who tried to bring their "support peacock" on a flight.

 

I can't wait to see the story of the person with a "Support" pygmy rhino trying to board.

 

https://onemileatatime.com/news/boeing-737-max-crash-victims-suffer/
Boeing Argues That 737 MAX Crash Victims Didn’t Suffer

“Boeing attorneys cited an expert who said that the 737 MAX victims died painlessly because the airplane crashed into the ground so fast that their brains didn’t have time to process pain signals from their nervous systems.”

 

https://onemileatatime.com/news/boeing-737-max-crash-victims-suffer/
Boeing Argues That 737 MAX Crash Victims Didn’t Suffer

Amazing the lengths to which some lawyers are willing to debase themselves when trying to win a case.

 

Amazing the lengths to which some lawyers are willing to debase themselves when trying to win a case.

It's the typical argument.

“While passengers undoubtedly perceived the flight as scary, humans have a tendency to hold on to hope and not expect the worst. Ultimately, it is impossible to know the subjective experience of each occupant.”

They know it's a horrible, sausage being made negotiation point., argument but if they can reduce the pain and suffering settlement by a sizable percentage, it's a huge win for the bean-counters that pay the lawyers. It's aimed at the judge and the attorneys on all sides to finish a settlement in progress.

 

it's a huge win for the been-counters that pay the lawyers.

I'm sure you meant to write "bean-counters" ... right? ... Well down here we say "cuenta-chiles" which translates to "pepper counters". Hot peppers here are extremely cheap, and among them the piquín pepper is a favorite. A piquín pepper is spherical, and very small (but very tasty). ... one can easily imagine how much of a cheapskate a person is when said person starts counting every single piquín pepper on the table for a "fair" distribution.

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One last drink before a trip to the Clink.

 

One last drink before a trip to the Clink.

that was a couple of nights ago ... I wonder if the guy's still hungover ...

 

This falls under "human factors engineering".

The aircrew WILL be eating and drinking in the cockpit. Even if that weren't allowed by rules, it's still going to happen. Plus, on long flights the aircrew has to be able to eat and drink, so is it better to make them leave the cockpit to do so, or make it so that they can do it safely in the cockpit? The latter is the pretty clear winner. And, again, even if they were required to leave by some rule, there is still going to be food and beverages in the cockpit. Human factors has to take into account what humans WILL do, not what they are SUPPOSED to do.

So cockpits need to be designed with this in mind. There needs to be a convenient place for them to place food and beverages -- if there isn't, then they WILL put them any place that is more convenient (see above). Places where food and beverages should definitely NOT be placed need to be made very inconvenient to be used as such -- such as no flat surfaces or nooks where cups can be set or lodged. Furthermore, cockpits need to be designed with spills in mind. A pilot taking a drink of water when sudden turbulence is encountered may send that water anywhere -- so critical controls need to be made resistant to spills, whether it's by shielding them, sealing them, or whatever.

Interesting article related to what was previously being discussed:

14 Things Pilots Are Surprisingly Not Allowed To Do In The Cockpit

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According to one Reddit user, most pilots he knows drink coffee either during or after a flight. But that kind of freedom just ended too soon for some unlucky pilots. Following two recent coffee-spilling incidents inside A350 cockpits, drinking coffee in the said airplane's flight deck is now strictly prohibited, says Airlive.net.

 

The "sterile cockpit rule" is one that all pilots, at any level, have been encouraged to adopt. When I was still flying, it was part of my briefing to any passengers I took up. I told them that if I called for a "sterile cockpit" at any time, that all conversation that is not directly related to the flight must stop immediately, as well as all other activities, and that everyone was to sit quietly and enjoy the view, but to leave me undisturbed to focus on safety-of-flight. Some flights I never called for it, but if there was a lot of traffic, if we were near (or below) VFR minimums, if I was operating at an unfamiliar airport where things weren't exactly as anticipated, if the weather was being challenging, or any time I was making an instrument approach (even in VFR and even if not under the hood), I called for it. It makes a real difference. The amazingly thin line between being able to handle routine distractions and becoming task-saturated was really driven home to me early in my instrument training (like, literally on the first flight).

 

Interesting article related to what was previously being discussed:

14 Things Pilots Are Surprisingly Not Allowed To Do In The Cockpit
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Hi,

So i guess sex is still on the table? Ha ha.

These rules sound good to me, makes flight safer.
The no two eat the same meal rule is great reminds me of that funny movie, "Airplane", where all the flight crew ate fish and got sick and passed out so the underdog guy that happened to be on board and knew how to fly took over, along with his crazy girlfriend.

 

The no two eat the same meal rule is great reminds me of that funny movie, "Airplane"....

Not to be confused with Zero Hour!

 

https://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/threads/movies-that-make-you-smile.118690/post-1341844