Glad I'm not a passenger

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cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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Same thing is happening with cars nowadays. Automation is getting in the way of the driver's full control of the vehicle:


As we reported last week, Canada is preparing to break ranks with the FAA on the final form of the recertification with its own flight test program and a supplement to the FAA-approved flight manual. Now Bloomberg is reporting the disagreement revolves around whether the pilots should be able to shut off a malfunctioning stick shaker.
 

SamR

Joined Mar 19, 2019
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I fought a similar battle. Control rooms have exterior alarm horns to alert the operator when he was outside of the control room. First they stuffed paper into the alarm and weren't satisfied with the results so they turned the breaker off completely eliminating the secondary annunciator system. I jokingly commented it should have been on the same breaker as the microwave oven or HVAC. Bottom line was were the alarms actual alarm conditions or simply nuisance alarms. Suggested a safety review of all the operating area alarms but area and safety supervision were too busy to bother with it so it was a constant battle over the annunciator. Having an operator who is not cognizant of safety alarm statutory requirements make the decision is not a good choice.
 

SamR

Joined Mar 19, 2019
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British plane has just departed London when the intercom comes on. "This is the Captain speaking. Welcome to British Airways flight 939 from Heathrow to JFK. We have reached OHHH SHITTTT..." and the intercom cuts off. Passengers are looking at each other and peering out the windows wondering what is going on. A couple of minutes later they hear "This is the Captain. I apologize for that. We have reached cruising altitude and the stewardess was bringing us coffee and I spilled mine. You should see what a mess it made of the front of my pants..." A loud brouge is heard from the back of the plane "Aye, and you should see what a mess it made of the back of me britches."
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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British plane has just departed London when the intercom comes on. "This is the Captain speaking. Welcome to British Airways flight 939 from Heathrow to JFK. We have reached OHHH SHITTTT..." and the intercom cuts off. Passengers are looking at each other and peering out the windows wondering what is going on. A couple of minutes later they hear "This is the Captain. I apologize for that. We have reached cruising altitude and the stewardess was bringing us coffee and I spilled mine. You should see what a mess it made of the front of my pants..." A loud brouge is heard from the back of the plane "Aye, and you should see what a mess it made of the back of me britches."
if only you had spelled brogue correctly...
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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Things are getting back to normal in China.
While some of those are, I think, symptomatic of a type of driving common in some countries and not in others, I suspect that it wouldn't be hard to compile a similar collection of dashcam videos from just about any country on the planet. Certainly I've seen lots of close calls (and a few that were not just close) here.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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How very tragic that the thieves survived. Here in Cleveland police chases have been greatly curtailed. Basically sends the message we won't chase you to the criminals whose rights now exceed those of the victims.

Ron
I couldn't tell what model of car crashed but it saved their useless souls.
 
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