fm/am Modulation in space

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sleeping

Joined Oct 19, 2012
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Maybe a dumb question. Is freq/amplitude/pm/etc. possible in free space without the signals being on a say pc board. In other words if two signals crossed in free space would you get a third signal that is modulated by the two frequencies. I swear its not homework. This question has bothered me for years, just couldn't think of a good way of testing it out.

Thanks, for any answer that makes fun of or helps me understand :)
 
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WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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In general, no. In true free space (vacuum), the answer may even be categorically no (I'm not willing to go out on a limb like that off the top of my head). In order to get modulation, you need some kind of a nonlinear medium or process. For EM signals intersecting in a material (gas or glass or something else), if the intensities are high enough it could drive the medium into nonlinear behavior and you would get modulation. There are devices, particularly in the laser world, that rely on this mode of operation.
 

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sleeping

Joined Oct 19, 2012
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From your answer, I suppose you need extremely high energies of EM waves for them to react in a vacumn. Searching this further, Gamma rays show this behavior.

Thank you for the reply.
 

KL7AJ

Joined Nov 4, 2008
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Although radio waves can never mix in a vacuum regardless of how much power one has (this is the Superposition principle), the CAN mix in the ionosphere. This is the whole basis of ionospheric modification facilities such as HAARP, and the now defunct Hipas Observatory, where I worked for years. The non-linearity of the ionosphere was first recognized as the "Luxembourg Effect" and is a fascinating branch of plasma physics.

Eric
 
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