In addition to the spontaneity.

That's the icing on the cake.

https://www.phoenix.gov/firesite/Documents/074742.pdf
PHOENIX REGIONAL
STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES
Policy Name:
CAR FIRES
Policy Number:
M.P. 202.16

ELECTRIC & HYBRID VEHICLES
When arriving on scene, the first step is proper size up. This includes the extent of the fire and if
it’s a compartment fire or includes the electrical components of the vehicle. Once life safety has
been addressed, fire companies should determine if they should suppress the fire or simply allow
the vehicle to burn. This can be based on exposures, the extent of the fire, etc. EVs can be viewed
as a battery energy storage system on wheels. Batteries are simply a method to store energy and
once the batteries have gone into thermal runaway, we understand that the vehicle is most likely
a total loss. Control efforts must consider life safety, property conservation, exposure protection,
environmental protection, and firefighter safety.

 

I swear, we are all moving backwards sometimes. Despite all of the advances made in safety at factories and standards for consumer safety over the years, we just throw it all out the window and the pursuit of profit, how things like this are legal I don't know but it is insane, capitalism in its death throes.

If there's an impact between my car and another, we stop, get out and swap insurance details etc. With a "self driving" car like these WTF are we expected to do? what if the Waymo drives away? it's insane, the human race is destroying itself, the public are being used to perform product testing.

 

There are 83 million homes in the US with attached garages or car ports.

I wonder how many Americans will be killed daily when all these are filled with EVs?

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/evs-...-big-reason-why-jd-power-study-180922855.html

One should always remember that today's ICE vehicles are so complicated mostly due to gov't regulations and CAFE standards.

 

https://www.thestreet.com/electric-vehicles/fisker-fire-sale-deal-comes-with-giant-asterisk

As part of its bankruptcy proceedings, Fisker Inc. is set to sell its remaining inventory of Ocean electric SUVs. New York City-based American Lease, a company specializing in renting and leasing vehicles to rideshare drivers, has agreed to buy the whole lot of 3,321 vehicles for a total of $46.3 million, pending court approval.
...
Of the 3,321 vehicles set to be transferred to the NYC-based rideshare vehicle leasing firm, 2,711 of the Oceans are described as being in “reasonably good working order” and having a “Manufacturer’s Certificate of Origin." These vehicles fetched the most expensive price, selling for $16,500 per unit.

Additionally, 351 vehicles that were previously titled are set to be sold for just $3,200 each, and other EVs that have ‘mechanical, cosmetic, or other damage or defects that require repair’ (estimated at over $5,000) have been sold for rock-bottom prices as low as $2,500.

 

The current owners are getting the raw end of this deal for sure.

 

https://www.reuters.com/business/au...s-says-transition-will-take-years-2024-07-22/
Porsche waters down EV ambitions, says transition will take 'years'

It has now watered down that goal by tying it explicitly to customer demand and developments in the electromobility sector, saying in a statement only that it could now deliver on the 80% target if those factors warrant it.

"The transition to electric cars is taking longer than we thought five years ago," Porsche said in a statement.
"Our product strategy is set up such that we could deliver over 80% of our vehicles as all electric in 2030 - dependent on customer demand and the development of electromobility."
Executives at carmakers from Mercedes-Benz to Renault have warned in recent months that goals they set in recent years for fully electric sales in the next decade were too ambitious as customers remained reticent to make the switch away from gas-powered cars.

 

https://www.reuters.com/business/au...s-says-transition-will-take-years-2024-07-22/
Porsche waters down EV ambitions, says transition will take 'years'

It has now watered down that goal by tying it explicitly to customer demand and developments in the electromobility sector, saying in a statement only that it could now deliver on the 80% target if those factors warrant it.

"The transition to electric cars is taking longer than we thought five years ago," Porsche said in a statement.
"Our product strategy is set up such that we could deliver over 80% of our vehicles as all electric in 2030 - dependent on customer demand and the development of electromobility."
Executives at carmakers from Mercedes-Benz to Renault have warned in recent months that goals they set in recent years for fully electric sales in the next decade were too ambitious as customers remained reticent to make the switch away from gas-powered cars.

In the seminal work, On War, by von Clausewitz, he established a point very early on that I have found very true and very useful -- and widely ignored. He stated that, in military affairs, there was a trinity of actors -- the government, the military, and the people, and that there were relationships between each pair of them. He said that, in different places and different times, those three entities were constant, but that the relationships were very different. He then asserted that any military strategy that either ignored any of those relationships or, worse, assumed some desired relationship between any two of them, was so at odds with reality as to be fundamentally meaningless from the beginning.

I have found this to be so true in most aspects of life, and this is just one more example. All of their "product strategies" were based on rosy assumptions about the public's relationship with electric vehicles, as well as rosy assumptions about the technology maturation. So it's no wonder that those strategies are turning out to be fundamentally garbage.

 

 

 

There will not be enough emergency personnel on earth to respond to EV-related incidents when there are millions of them on the road and parked in homes and garages everywhere.

EVs are simply not sustainable.

 

There will not be enough emergency personnel on earth to respond to EV-related incidents when there are millions of them on the road and parked in homes and garages everywhere.

EVs are simply not sustainable.

Have no fear...the robots will keep everything under control.

 

...the robots...

Their batteries will be catastrophically exploding as well.

Imagine: death by robot while being served breakfast in bed.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/21/ford-delays-new-ev-plant-cancels-electric-three-row-suv.html
Ford delays new EV plant, cancels electric three-row SUV as it shifts strategy

The changes are the latest for Ford and come amid slower-than-expected adoption of EVs as well as automakers not being able to profitably produce the vehicles.

The new plans come roughly five months after Ford said it would delay production of the three-row SUV and next-generation pickup, codenamed “T3.”

“This is really about us being nimble and listening to responses from our customers,” Lawler said during a call Wednesday morning. “We’ve been out in the [EV] market here for over two years, and we’ve learned a lot, and what we’re understanding is that customers want more electrification choices.”

 

https://www.thetimes.com/business-m...sales-add-to-eu-manufacturers-gloom-l0l5mjr7h

Need. More. Subsidies.

 

https://www.thetimes.com/business-m...sales-add-to-eu-manufacturers-gloom-l0l5mjr7h

Need. More. Subsidies.

Paywall

 

Paywall

Not for me. Weird.

 

Not for me. Weird.

I VPN'd through a server in Dallas and was able to get through.

Interesting article, thanks for posting.

 

 

Left unsaid: these manufacturers were expecting the government to be their best salesman -- a role in which it failed miserably.