For instance, if a mistake is made in designing a circuit due to an error in communication between collaborators it will most likely result in failure.

Or the loss of millions of dollars or even lives. I am one of those that believe words are important, and should be chosen carefully, regardless of the "forum". And, yes, I make mistakes, too -- occasionally.

 

My thoughts of secession were summed up nicely by someone long ago in this opening paragraph ....

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

Unfortunately, four score and seven years post this document, it was rendered null and void.

 

Or the loss of millions of dollars or even lives.

I agree, a professional mistake can be catastrophic, it's happened many times in history.

I am one of those that believe words are important, and should be chosen carefully

So am I

regardless of the "forum"

That's where I disagree. I like to visit this section mainly to socialize and relate to other members.
And yes, of course even here I try to use the clearest possible language (btw, you have no idea of how hard that is when you're bilingual).

But this is not a game of chess, or a competition to see who makes the first mistake.
I'm here to learn. And I appreciate being corrected by those more experienced than me because it always results in my profit.

My point is that I find that some of us are somewhat lacking in the art of diplomacy.
It doesn't affect me. At all. But I've seen noobies being scared away because of that. And that's a bad thing for everyone.

 

My thoughts of secession were summed up nicely by someone long ago in this opening paragraph ....



Unfortunately, four score and seven years post this document, it was rendered null and void.

I don't know to what degree the Confederate States of America "declared their causes", but other than that I don't see how anything was rendered null and void. Just as in the American Revolution, in which the colonies tried to separate and force was used to prevent that separation, so too did the Confederate States try to separate and force was used to prevent that separation. The only difference is that the force failed in the first instance and prevailed in the second.

 

Force is reality, words are worth nothing. Force can change the meaning of a word real fast.

 

Force is reality, words are worth nothing. Force can change the meaning of a word real fast.

Especially if it's rotating, huh?

 

Look at how the shooting in Orlando is changing words in gun control and the definitions of cause for these things.
Not to mention the accusations of blame.

What words are going to change, for the vote in England, because of that MP killing there?

 

(btw, you have no idea of how hard that is when you're bilingual).

Bilingual? Is that even an English word? I'm not sure a word like that is needed in 'Merica

 

And, yes, I make mistakes, too -- occasionally.

And, do not forget, miracles. Four of them; you words.

 

What words are going to change, for the vote in England, because of that MP killing there?

Probably massive clamor for more gun control laws.
How many less guns can you have in England?
Unfortunately, criminals in England also do not obey The Law.
Only the law abiding citizens are disarmed by laws.

 

On the topic of that MP, if a Vote Leave member was responsible it will do some serious damage to the leave vote. The leave party always talk about acts of terrorism and extremism and then suddenly their influence has caused an act of extremism. You know how the media like to blow things out of proportion

 

Bilingual? Is that even an English word?

Gopher, my friend, you let your guard down for a moment better luck next time

 

On the topic of that MP

Whatever the outcome of that event, I want you to know that my prayers and my thoughts are with her, her family, and your country.

 

Gopher, my friend, you let your guard down for a moment better luck next time

Common, that post was my commentary on the lack of bilingual people in English-speaking countries (thus making such word unnecessary in English).

 

Personally I haven’t heard of a single valid reason to stay part of the EU.

The people that intend to vote remain that I have spoken too, and those that have aired their reasons on TV have bizarre or selfish reasons.

The woman who said she like to be part of the EU and when she goes into London for a coffee enjoys the level of service she gets from EU staff.
The university professor who has no confidence that the £850 million investment in university research grants from the EU would continue if we left.
The couple that have a daughter working in an EU country think she would be unable to continue if we left.
University students that are concerned that the mobile phone roaming charges may increase if we left, or that they would not be able to travel in Europe.

Worse still the government have been shown to be misrepresenting information with the sole intention of misleading the public on more than one occasion, they no longer have any credibility.

If anyone has a valid reason to remain I would love to hear it.

 

Personally I haven’t heard of a single valid reason to stay part of the EU.

The people that intend to vote remain that I have spoken too, and those that have aired their reasons on TV have bizarre or selfish reasons.

The woman who said she like to be part of the EU and when she goes into London for a coffee enjoys the level of service she gets from EU staff.
The university professor who has no confidence that the £850 million investment in university research grants from the EU would continue if we left.
The couple that have a daughter working in an EU country think she would be unable to continue if we left.
University students that are concerned that the mobile phone roaming charges may increase if we left, or that they would not be able to travel in Europe.

Worse still the government have been shown to be misrepresenting information with the sole intention of misleading the public on more than one occasion, they no longer have any credibility.

If anyone has a valid reason to remain I would love to hear it.

Having every aspect of your lives being controlled by a bureaucrat in Brussels -- is that pro or con?

 

Having every aspect of your lives being controlled by a bureaucrat in Brussels -- is that pro or con?

Just one of the many VALID cons that the blinkered remains don't seem to grasp.

 

If anyone has a valid reason

Yes, if you leave, our peso will most likely suffer some consequences... so, for the sake of Mexico, please don't

 

selfish reasons.

it is perfectly reasonable for people to make their decisions on "selfish reasons". After all, people in the exit camp are driven by selfish reasons too, just different sets of "selfish reasons".

Being selfish is good. It is what drives advancements in our society and has been so for hundreds of millions of years.

 

Robin.....it's usually an outlier that does something like this. No matter what side he thinks he is on, the party is usually un-aware of the action.

Every group has it's nutbags.

I myself have at times filled that position. Although not in a violent manner.

.....just heard that the shooter was mental.