Good Day!

I need help to install something like a switch to disconnect the central locking device while the car key in the ignition switch, My issue is when my arm touch the door lock bar, all doors locked, so to re-open them back I should open my door and re-close it which I can't do while moving or by the remote control which will close all windows (because of window lifting device) and I should re-open them again, So I'm thinking to solve this issue by disconnecting the central locking device once the key entered the ignition switch.

Any thoughts?

Thank You

 

Any thoughts?

You certainly have an issue. But if you could be a lot more clear on what you have, what you want and what you're getting. So far I have no idea how your issue is an issue. Not saying you don't have an issue, just saying it's not clear. At least not to me. Maybe others may be able to relate better than I can.

Car? Make, Model, Year.
Door lock bar? I haven't heard of such a thing.
All doors lock? Wouldn't that be a safety thing? Can't open the door while driving? That actually makes good sense. How's that an issue?

So I'm thinking to solve this issue by disconnecting the central locking device once the key entered the ignition switch.

What's a "central locking device?

 

I'm also failing to understand how locking your doors while driving is an issue. I can see it being a problem when you attempt to open the door to get out, but if you have a way to lock all doors at once it would make sense there is also a way to unlock all doors (power locks come to mind)

 

Good Day!

I need help to install something like a switch to disconnect the central locking device while the car key in the ignition switch, My issue is when my arm touch the door lock bar, all doors locked, so to re-open them back I should open my door and re-close it which I can't do while moving or by the remote control which will close all windows (because of window lifting device) and I should re-open them again, So I'm thinking to solve this issue by disconnecting the central locking device once the key entered the ignition switch.

Any thoughts?

Thank You

The simple solution is to disconnect the "door locking bar" and install a button switch in a location that your arm will not touch.

 

How old is this car? Every car has had for decades locks all the doors when moving. Why do you want the doors open when moving?

 

It seems like the problem is in the stupid automation of the window closing function added to the locking function.
While it is common to close all of the windows when locking up a parked car, it seems that the controls designer for that model neglected to consider that the driver might want to assure that the doors were locked while driving the car, but not lock the windows shut.

It seems that many do not understand the actual complaint, which is the problem of a control program believing that it is much smarter than the user.

The problem is that if the driver accidentally triggers the lock function while driving, that the stupid controls program ALSO raises and locks all of the windows in the full up position, and that there is no means to unlock all of the windows from the full up position, EXCEPT to open the drivers door, which is what the TS wants to change.

The DESIGN FLAW is in making the request for door locking so very automatic. It came from the same mind-set that put all of the radio controls several menu levels down on a single touch screen a few years ago.

 

What I am still trying to understand is why he needs to unlock the doors while the car is moving. Perhaps he is a stunt driver. Can’t think of anything else.

A simple solution could be a piece of tape over the switch.

 

How old is this car? Every car has had for decades locks all the doors when moving. Why do you want the doors open when moving?

Decades is a stretch on this. I have two 2004 vehicles that don't. One doesn't have power locks and the other will unlock the doors if the key is in the ignition and you lock the door. I know that is technically two decades so plural decades is correct, but there are still vehicles out there that don't automatically lock the doors

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You also have to consider there are many different standards and technological differences in other parts of the world.

 

What I am still trying to understand is why he needs to unlock the doors while the car is moving.

Because if he accidentally hits the button to lock the door, the stupid software also shuts the windows. And they latch in that position. The ONLY way to open the windows is to open and shut the door.
He doesn’t want to unlock the doors while the car is moving. He wants to open the windows while the car is moving.

 

It appears that only djsfantasi has read and understood the actual problem as I explained more clearly in post #6 . The addition of too much "automation features" by designers or marketers who probably do not even drive.

 

You certainly have an issue. But if you could be a lot more clear on what you have, what you want and what you're getting. So far I have no idea how your issue is an issue. Not saying you don't have an issue, just saying it's not clear. At least not to me. Maybe others may be able to relate better than I can.

Car? Make, Model, Year.
Door lock bar? I haven't heard of such a thing.
All doors lock? Wouldn't that be a safety thing? Can't open the door while driving? That actually makes good sense. How's that an issue?

What's a "central locking device?

Perhaps I can't explain very well. Sorry for that. However, I just need something like an automatic switch with 3 terminals, When current flow in terminal #1, Disconnect the other 2 terminals, and when current off the other terminals connected.

I need to turn lifting window unit off when the car key in the ignition .. That's it.

Thank You

 

Thanks for the effort in explaining what you have and want. Sorry, I just am too dense to understand. I'm bowing out and letting clearer heads prevail.

 

I just need something like an automatic switch with 3 terminals, When current flow in terminal #1, Disconnect the other 2 terminals, and when current off the other terminals connected.

That would be a DPDT relay.

 

The problem is that the stupid automation system decides to raise all of the windows whenever the TS accidentally bumps whatever the "door locking bar". My issue is when my arm touch the door lock bar, all doors locked, and all of the windows close. My suggestion is to disconnect that "door locking bar connection and instead have a button to press. To provide exactly what the TS has requested would be to have a relay do the disconnection when the ignition switch is in the run position. THAT should be simple. The effort will be in locating where to disconnect that "door lock bar", which I have no clue about.

 

The problem is that the stupid automation system decides to raise all of the windows whenever the TS accidentally bumps whatever the "door locking bar". My issue is when my arm touch the door lock bar, all doors locked, and all of the windows close. My suggestion is to disconnect that "door locking bar connection and instead have a button to press. To provide exactly what the TS has requested would be to have a relay do the disconnection when the ignition switch is in the run position. THAT should be simple. The effort will be in locating where to disconnect that "door lock bar", which I have no clue about.

Door latch rod, Sorry, my English is off

 

That would be a DPDT relay.
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Thanks a lot my friend, that's it. I'll try to get one.

 

Really, to disable the function when the engine is running, using a relay operated by the ignition switch being in the run position, would require a single pole normally closed relay. OR using the NC contacts, I believe #30 and #87A of a standard automotive five terminal cube relay. But it will need to be a relay rated for constant duty.
Where would the double poll normally open relay be connected???

 

Thanks a lot my friend, that's it. I'll try to get one.

Alternative is using two 5 pin 12 volt auto relays commonly available.
The relay coils are wired in parallel connected to the ignition switch.

 

Once again, I am asking where the second pole would be connected, given that the issue is exclusively with the driver position in the vehicle. Only one sensing point needs to be interrupted.

 

Do we know what make, model, year of vehicle this is yet ?