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Discussion in 'Career Advising' started by Motanache, May 13, 2017.

  1. BR-549

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    One can always go lower.......it's the easiest thing in the world.
     
  2. JoeJester

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    You brought it up in your first post, making it relevant and germane to the discussion.
     
  3. BR-549

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    Even when I was my own boss.......I always had to work for someone that had more money than I did.
     
  4. Motanache

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    Deleted. It has no relevance in the discussion
     
  5. ronv

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    You are located in Romania?
    What is your education?
    What is your experience?
    What work is fun for you?
     
  6. Motanache

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    Yes
    Physics, master in biophysics.
    Theoretical part of the PhD finished it with the highest grades(In atomic physics).
    The PhD thesis was rejected, the commission considered it too weak.

    Atomic physics(IBA)

    All I have done, but without stress.
    In science without a PhD can not have a future.

    In principle- I'm not good enough and I have to reprofile myself.
     
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  7. WBahn

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    There was a guy in the town where I went to college that, back in the 70's, lost his job as a mechanical engineer in the aerospace industry and couldn't find another one, at least in part because of the lousy economy (this was the era of stagflation). He met a potential freelance consulting client at a fast food restaurant and during the meeting saw one of the employees washing the exterior windows and not doing a very good job because the store didn't have a squeegee that was in good condition and the kid obviously didn't want to be doing the work out in the hot sun and didn't know how to do the job well. Lots of streaks that really looked bad in the sun.

    The meeting didn't produce a consulting job, but that afternoon the guy went to a hardware store and bought some basic window washing supplies and went back to the restaurant and spoke with the manager. He point out the poor quality of the window washing and asked the manager to consider the subliminal message that dirty windows might send to guests about the overall cleanliness of the restaurant. He made the case that instead of expecting teenagers to know how to wash windows well and to do it with enthusiasm and take pride in it, that it made more sense to contract with him to do that job because that was his specialty -- he would clean windows and only clean windows, so he would do it well. He offered to wash all of the windows for free, right then and there, to demonstrate the difference. The manager agreed to give him a try.

    I met the guy in the 1990 time frame and at that point he had contracts with over a hundred businesses, some of them quite large including a couple shopping plazas, business parks, and auto dealerships and had a workforce of nearly fifty people. All because he saw an opportunity to provide a service that most people don't want to do -- and so he set about doing it for them, doing it well, and doing it cheerfully. How I met him was that he made a practice of going out on jobs one day a week as just a member of the crew and the manager of the Burger King where I was working pointed him out to me and told me a bit of his story. So I went out and introduced myself and talked to him during our shared lunch break.

    One thing that always stuck in my mind is that the guy told me that on that first demo job he had no idea how to wash windows! He made the offer expecting not to do a really good job and to not get a contract, but he figured it was a good way to start learning how to do it right and that it might take a dozen free trials before he got good enough to get his first contract. He also figured it was a good way to get a handle on how long a job took so that he could make a reasonable bid. He said the first pane that he did turned out little better than the kid had done, so he redid it. After several attempts he had figured out how to get decent results and proceeded to work around the building until he got to the sunny side and discovered that his technique didn't work too well there. So he redid that pane several times to figure out how to wash a window that is hot and exposed to the sun.
     
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  8. ronv

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    Wow, I hate to see you throw away all that education. So I would think about getting that PhD. If not I think I would look at the medical field based only on your masters degree.
     
  9. joeyd999

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    Or jail.
     
  10. dl324

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    I wish the laws were changed to make inmates earn their keep. Then they'd just need to add "at hard labor" to all of the convictions.
     
  11. BR-549

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    It doesn't need to be hard.........just manual. That's punishment enough now days. Hard labor such as road work or mine work would be considered torture.

    In our country.......you can pre-meditate murder.....and we will feed, house, clothe and med you for 20 years free of charge...and no taxes.....and then let you out debt free.
     
  12. Motanache

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    Hey guys is another discussion!
    I am a "drop of water" in an ocean. What can I improve?
     
  13. WBahn

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    What the hell is that supposed to mean??????

    What you YOU say to someone that said to you, "I am a feather in the wind. What can I improve?"
     
  14. Motanache

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    Society also has disadvantages.
    Groups decide for us. And psychology teaches us that groups do not have conscience(With sense of mercy).
    I did not find a link to prove this, but I read it.

    Love disappears In our society. Those who are based on interested will be promoted despite the honest ones.
     
  15. WBahn

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    o_O:rolleyes::confused:
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  16. Motanache

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    I wanted to say that is not the talk I want. Do not help me with anything.


    If you can not help me, you can say you can not help me.
    Why do you consider yourself forced to correct me?

    I think I got the answer to my question:
    You have to hit the one Who fall. In my life I helped people.
    And sing to the heart of the one with good position.
     
  17. WBahn

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    Ah. I see. You only want people to tell you what you want to hear.

    I think it's pretty safe to say that I cannot help you.

    I wasn't correcting you, I was trying to get you to express yourself in a sufficiently coherent manner so that I could figure out what the heck you were trying to say. But that is apparently an unrealistic expectation. I'll try to remember that going forward.

    Good luck. I hope you find someone that'll tell you everything you want to hear.
     
  18. BR-549

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    "Society also has disadvantages.
    Groups decide for us. And psychology teaches us that groups do not have conscience(With sense of mercy).
    I did not find a link to prove this, but I read it.

    Love disappears In our society. Those who are based on interested will be promoted despite the honest ones."


    Welcome to life. Some don't like it and become hermits. Some learn to work thru all that.......some learn thru it.....and some reject this imperfect world and become criminals.

    Your life is still all up to you.....and you alone. You have to decide.
     
  19. Glenn Holland

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    The problem with homelessness here in the San Francisco Bay Area is the cost of housing is way out of line with wages. It doesn't matter what job you're willing to take -or not take- if the inflation rate is so wildly out of control that you cannot pay for a place to live. The scenario is all too familiar: Most people become homeless after getting double digit rent increases, then evicted. Once you're out on the street, your'e dead in the water with little or no chance for holding down a job. With no bathroom facilities, your life rapidly begins to decay to the point of socio-economic decomposition.

    However, the basic source problem is way, way, way too much government money flowing into the region's economy. I've done a lot of research on the socio-economic problems here and I've found that government agencies are literally giving away billions to various politically connected special interests that shovel millions to politicians at all levels of government. Public employee unions are one of the biggest hogs with their snout in the public trough followed by big business interests like Google, Tesla, Twitter, etc.

    In fact, Google's self driving car project is totally funded by the federal government, but it has a snow ball's chance in Hell of becoming a reality in the foreseeable future. Tesla's electric car business is being funded through subsidies like tax breaks and surcharges on general electric rates.

    However, one of the most glaring examples of waste and abuse of government funding is UCSF Benioff Children's Hospital which has spent over $15 million per year on advertising for the past five years. I hear radio ads for UCSF at least three times per hour for over a year. UCSF Benioff Children's Hospital also spends a huge amount of money on perks like trips to Hawaii and Lake Tahoe.

    Then there are government administrators like school districts and community colleges who make $300,000/year plus lavish benefits. I could go on and on about how a flood of government $$$ has warped the economy and created a large group of haves - and have nots. With such a gamed economic system, forget about finding gainful employment. It's like trying to make a living by winning at the casinos in Las vegas.
     
  20. GopherT

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    The US nuclear power industry is in an interesting state of flux. There were a huge number of nuclear power engineers in the 1980s then the industry shrunk after Three Mile Island and Chernoble. After that, fewer people graduate until the resurgence of nuclear power in 2005 - 2012. After Fukishima, the power industry shrunk back to 2005 levels and the recent graduates (recent hires) were first to be laid off from GE, Westinghouse Nuclear Power and the various companies that support these two (plus the French Giant - Areva).

    That said, these companies need to replace retiring engineers and, most importantly, fuel design engineers. Unfortunately, few are left in the industry. The fuel engineers I know have been offered high paying contracts to come out of retirement. Interestingly, both are from Romania.

    I suggest you consider leaving Romania and take your close-to-PhD education and apply for positions at the big 3 power plant maintenance/refueling companies - Westinghouse Nuclear Power, GE, Areva).
     
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