https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death_migration

Recent exhumations of bones and burial pit remains from the London plague of 1600 were tested and found that the plague was in fact caused by rats, locally they prevalent everywhere at the time.

 

Recent exhumations of bones and burial pit remains from the London plague of 1600 were tested and found that the plague was in fact caused by rats, locally they prevalent everywhere at the time.

Agree:
https://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/threads/coronavirus.166679/post-1672536

The actual plague those rats carried likely originated in Asia.

 

Agree:
https://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/threads/coronavirus.166679/post-1672536

The actual plague those rats carried likely originated in Asia.

 

did not see the clip before

 

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/03/1069...termined-to-keep-schools-open-despite-omicron

New York City, home to the largest school district in the country, is reporting about 31,000 cases a day. The head of the city's teachers union, Michael Mulgrew, said in an open letter on Sunday that he advised the mayor that a temporary return to remote would be the safest course of action.


No dice. Mayor Eric Adams, who was sworn in on New Year's Day, started his first Monday in office with a press conference held at an elementary school in the Bronx. "We are really excited about the opening of our schools," he said. "And we want to be extremely clear: The safest place for our children is in a school building, and we are going to keep our schools open."

https://www.timesofisrael.com/top-h...o-control-over-omicron-as-cases-keep-surging/

Meanwhile, Channel 13 again quoted unnamed senior officials at the Health Ministry saying millions will get Omicron. The officials also said restrictions would not help in dealing with the outbreak.


Earlier Monday, Israel’s coronavirus czar Salman Zarka similarly said anything short of far-reaching measures would be ineffective in bringing down cases.

 

Lockdown idea is still going strong unfortunately. I always wonder whether any lessons were actually learned in thd past 2 years

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...g-is-no-longer-an-exception-to-quebecs-curfew

My personal favorite is closing the gyms...

https://torontosun.com/opinion/colu...-are-locked-down-again-and-thats-unacceptable

In BC the New Years gift was once again restricting visitations in long term care facilities to 1 essential visitor. Family memebers only. Must be vaccinated of course. I wonder how they will account for increased mortality due to depression from these measures? It is a well known fact that people die very quickly once there is no longer a reason to hold on. I know of several examples.

 

Little kids in Ontario Canada are delayed going back to school for two weeks because they are all not vaccinated yet and the schools are not fitted with HEPA filters and lots of masks for the kids. Before the delay the government thought the kids could be tested for Covid but there was not enough test kits.

Old age homes ban visitors to prevent them bringing in the virus.

Unacceptable lockdown? It is not essential for me to pass the virus around at a ball game, tavern or church.
A couple of days ago I went shopping and there was a girl at the front door counting people going in and coming out. No lineup and no problem because the stores are not crowded and almost everybody is fully vaccinated and has a mask.
People seriously affected by the virus (antivaxxers and weak old people with other medical problems) should not go out.

I am old but I am healthy, strong and have 3 doses. I might have had the virus or maybe I have it now, The vaccine is protecting me from getting much, spreading much or having any serious symptoms.

 

The vaccine is protecting me from getting much, spreading much or having any serious symptoms.

Omicron is another story. I’m fully vaccinated including booster. And I got Covid and spread it to most of my family. Apparently, besides omicron causing breakthrough infection. It spreads rapidly.

 

My personal favorite is closing the gyms...

My favorite to get everything locked down for week or two or whatever is sufficient and be done with it... announce it, let everyone get their supplies and shut it all down, close roads etc. only allow emergency services or those going to hospital.
the half hearted lockdown measures are ... half hearted.

 

Omicron has evolved into a very efficient upper respiratory tract virus.

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-...-faster-than-delta-in-bronchi-study-69540/amp

If anyone vaccinated or with boosters thinks they are not transmitting it, they better think again.

 

My favorite to get everything locked down for week or two or whatever is sufficient and be done with it... announce it, let everyone get their supplies and shut it all down, close roads etc. only allow emergency services or those going to hospital.
the half hearted lockdown measures are ... half hearted.

We are way past the point of no return on dealing with it with hard true lockdowns. There is some data floating around that Omicron can jump species easily so we will never get rid of it and whatever comes after.

 

Omicron has evolved into a very effocient upper respiratory tract virus.

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-...-faster-than-delta-in-bronchi-study-69540/amp

If anyone vaccinated or with boosters thinks they are not transmitting it, they better think again.

So far nothing has really slowed Omicron transmission but as expected and predicted for this type of virus (not all virus types in general) the mutations that increase transmission reduce severity of infections.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-cases.html

 

looking at that data, it appears that regions with highest vaccination rates are also the places with biggest problem. go figure.

 

Lately the news every day says the very high number of new cases of Covid-19 and resulting new numbers of hospitalized and ICU patients.
But they no longer say how many are vaccinated and how many are antivaxxers because everybody knows that almost every new hospital or ICU patient is an antivaxxer with a severe Covid-19 infection.

still don't know what news source that is but it does not match official data. that source is just fearmongering and creating panic.

this is latest info for Ontario:
https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data/hospitalizations#hospitalizationsByVaccinationStatus

it appears that 70% of hospital beds occupied by Covid patients are the vaccinated
even if you include cases in ICUs, unvaccinated are 32% which is far cry from antivaxxers being "almost all" and "95%" of hospitalized cases.


also ICUs are not overflowing as some suggested, certainly not due to Covid patients.

 

Why does the Ontario chart for today's Covid-19 cases say "fully vaccinated" when they had only 2 doses and with 3 doses the results are much better? I got my 3rd dose 6 weeks ago. When will the government's chart say that a fully vaccinated person has had 3 doses?? Then the percentages between vaxxed or not will be very different and maybe make unvaxxed people get vaxxed.
The chart also does not say how many new cases who are with only 2 doses use masks and social distancing.

 

i don't know. but i do not have better data than what government provides.

it used to be that one Covid vaccine shot would protect you as it is 98% effective but they are not correcting the efficacy. then it was said that effectivness wears off and may require booster, then 2nd and 3rd booster (and based on current stand of things this is likely never ending).
so just change the definition of when suited and keep on jabbing...

also it was claimed that vaccinated would not be affected or spread Covid but that was also false.

it was claimed that if one is fully vaccinated would not be sick or at least need hospitalization but even after several shots, 70% of hospitalized are the vaccinated.

it was also claimed that is super duper safe but even that is not quite flying. They admit that there is some 7000 severe adverse cases to vaccine in Canada (one in four adverse reactions is severe). so they setup nice website to claim injury, but of those who did, only 5 got approved. wonder why...

 

i don't know. but i do not have better data than what government provides.

it used to be that one Covid vaccine shot would protect you as it is 98% effective but they are not correcting the efficacy. then it was said that effectivness wears off and may require booster, then 2 and 3 (and based on current stand of things this is likely never ending).
so just change the definition of when suited and keep on jabbing...

also it was claimed that vaccinated would not be affected or spread Covid but that was also false.

it was claimed that if one is fully vaccinated would not be sick or at least need hospitalization but even after several shots, 70% of hospitalized are the vaccinated.

it was also claimed that is super duper safe but even that is not quite flying. They admit that there is some 7000 severe adverse cases to vaccine in Canada (one in four adverse reactions is severe). so they setup nice website to claim injury, but of those who did, only 5 got approved. wonder why...

It's the Omicron effect. The virus has leapfrogged the front-line antibody infection barrier of vaccines but we still maintain T-cell immunity from vaccination that's reducing serious sickness and death. It's changed the ballgame and we are slow to adapt with a fixation on total cases and large minor hospitalization rates. With high levels of vaccinated population, most cases will be the vaccinated as explained earlier in this thread with the base rate fallacy.

https://www.health.nd.gov/sites/www...e Page/COVID-19_Vaccine_Base_Rate_Fallacy.pdf

 

aside with base rate fallacy example where pictures do not match the text i agree.

i also see no difference in death rate before and after vaccination program, between number of Covid cases before and after vaccination. to me all of this is fake and political, it has nothing to do with science. Covid is a problem but it is not treated as such, there is no scientific approach, numbers are stretched to control people. people are simply herded like cattle and mistreated to get some political advantage. overall, number of death did not change. number of infections was just a convenient tool for the scrupulous. some will do anything to get what they want even if it means imprisoning people, injecting everyone, including children, sending people to poverty or worse. for that definitions change as suited. when someone stated that "if you are hit by car and end up in a hospital, then you test positive for Covid, you are hospitalized but not because of Covid". opposing party changed definition so every hospitalization with positive Covid test was - Covid case. now the same opposing party is changing the definition back since their member is elected president and they need to shore up some numbers to make it look like they improved something.

 

aside with base rate fallacy example where pictures do not match the text i agree.

i also see no difference in death rate before and after vaccination program, between number of Covid cases before and after vaccination. to me all of this is fake and political, it has nothing to do with science. Covid is a problem but it is not treated as such, there is no scientific approach, numbers are stretched to control people. people are simply herded like cattle and mistreated to get some political advantage. overall, number of death did not change. number of infections was just a convenient tool for the scrupulous. some will do anything to get what they want even if it means imprisoning people, injecting everyone, including children, sending people to poverty or worse. for that definitions change as suited. when someone stated that "if you are hit by car and end up in a hospital, then you test positive for Covid, you are hospitalized but not because of Covid". opposing party changed definition so every hospitalization with positive Covid test was - Covid case. now the same opposing party is changing the definition back since their member is elected president and they need to shore up some numbers to make it look like they improved something.

https://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/threads/coronavirus.166679/post-1664831

 

i don't know. but i do not have better data than what government provides.

it used to be that one Covid vaccine shot would protect you as it is 98% effective but they are not correcting the efficacy. then it was said that effectivness wears off and may require booster, then 2nd and 3rd booster (and based on current stand of things this is likely never ending).
so just change the definition of when suited and keep on jabbing...

also it was claimed that vaccinated would not be affected or spread Covid but that was also false.

it was claimed that if one is fully vaccinated would not be sick or at least need hospitalization but even after several shots, 70% of hospitalized are the vaccinated.

it was also claimed that is super duper safe but even that is not quite flying. They admit that there is some 7000 severe adverse cases to vaccine in Canada (one in four adverse reactions is severe). so they setup nice website to claim injury, but of those who did, only 5 got approved. wonder why...

You say " it used to be that one Covid vaccine shot would protect you as it is 98% effective "

That is not a true statement, the word is " efficacy " which is different,

You quote the efficacy , what do you know about how efficacy relates to vaccines, the R number the mutation rate and immune response ?