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Never had a tat and don't plan on one but from what I hear the Vax jab hurts a whole lot less.

 

The vaccination needle is so thin that you barely feel it and don't bleed or barely bleed one tiny drop of blood after it.

 

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20211216-france-says-110-000-fake-health-passes-in-circulation

Some 110,000 fake health passes are in circulation in France, the interior ministry said Thursday, with hundreds of investigations launched against makers and users of the forged documents.

The health pass, showing proof of vaccination, Covid recovery or a recent negative test result, is required for access to public transport, restaurants and cultural events.
As they investigate users and distributors of the fake documents, police have found that medical staff is sometimes complicit in the fraud, said Interior Minister Gerald Darmanin.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.14.472719v1.full.pdf

Abstract

The Omicron (B.1.1.529) variant of SARS-CoV-2 was only recently detected in southern Africa,
but its subsequent spread has been extensive, both regionally and globally 1 29 . It is expected to
become dominant in the coming weeks 2 30 , probably due to enhanced transmissibility. A striking
feature of this variant is the large number of spike mutations 3 31 that pose a threat to the efficacy of
current COVID-19 vaccines and antibody therapies 4 32 . This concern is amplified by the findings
from our study. We found B.1.1.529 to be markedly resistant to neutralization by serum not only
from convalescent patients, but also from individuals vaccinated with one of the four widely
used COVID-19 vaccines. Even serum from persons vaccinated and boosted with mRNA-based
vaccines exhibited substantially diminished neutralizing activity against B.1.1.529. By
evaluating a panel of monoclonal antibodies to all known epitope clusters on the spike protein,
we noted that the activity of 18 of the 19 antibodies tested were either abolished or impaired,
including ones currently authorized or approved for use in patients. In addition, we also
identified four new spike mutations (S371L, N440K, G446S, and Q493R) that confer greater
antibody resistance to B.1.1.529. The Omicron variant presents a serious threat to many existing
COVID-19 vaccines and therapies, compelling the development of new interventions that
anticipate the evolutionary trajectory of SARS-CoV-2.

 

My Vax jabs were actually painless. It was the aftereffect that was noticeable and in my case with a compromised immune system the reaction was not much more than a mildly sore arm at the site. Far less than my wife or sons.

 

At the time(s) they make/made predictions or statements things they said were the best thing they knew. So it still comes down to, do we wait until it's over before saying anything. When things are happening in real time what would your recommendation be? From what I remember all of the statements from what you call attention whores were professed with something similar to, "our best prediction" of the future.

People are fast to condemn Fauci, but seem to forget that he was replaced with Dr. Scott Atlas, how much of what he said was true of even said with any knowledge of infectious disease?

OK, let's just agree to disagree on all of this. Neither of us is going to change our thoughts or views,

Ron

 

My Vax jabs were actually painless. It was the aftereffect that was noticeable and in my case with a compromised immune system the reaction was not much more than a mildly sore arm at the site. Far less than my wife or sons.

See Sam and here's another thing. My wife, a cancer patient, also shares a compromised immune system. Like me she suffered absolutely no side effects from vaccination. So go figure? Beats the hell outta me.

Ron

 

See Sam and here's another thing. My wife, a cancer patient, also shares a compromised immune system. Like me she suffered absolutely no side effects from vaccination. So go figure? Beats the hell outta me.

Ron

Stay safe. It's time to prepare for Condition Zebra for those with low immunity if the omicron wave gets serious.

 

I didn't think much about it until someone clued me in. The reason it was so painless is my compromised immune system was not reacting to the Vax and forming antibodies. Painless is not necessarily good in my case.

 

Maybe like Prester Hynne, vaccine mandates might give anti-vaxxers a choice. Get the vaccine or get a red U tattooed on their forehead.

Reminds of jews being tagged in Nazi Germany, only even Nazis accepted mark on clothing. The modern version is to actually tattoo it onto ones face. Very progressive and tolerant ... Not

 

Maybe like Prester Hynne, vaccine mandates might give anti-vaxxers a choice. Get the vaccine or get a red U tattooed on their forehead.

They already tried that about 80 years ago.

 

Denmark had 10000 new cases (and many ICU admissions) today." 88% of the population are vaccinated but a photo shows no restrictions (crowded people without masks). The 12% of the population without vaccines are causing most of the new cases because they are not holding a big sign saying that they are spreading the virus around.

Why spread propaganda and fear?
It was already established that spreader can be anyone - vaccinated or not. Why are you claiming that spreaders are only unvaccinated?
And if vaccine protects, and you are vaccinated, why worry about antivaxers?
If antivaxers are dying in masses, YOUR problem is solving itself. Why constantly harp at them?
Maybe try changing station. I see a lot of resistance to mandates, dont see many funerals. Maybe your news station is lying to you.

 

They already tried that about 80 years ago.
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The self described progressives are very totalitarian. They repeat same playbook of darkest movements in the history just because there is a flu like virus that is 99% survivable with or without treatment

 

Why spread propaganda and fear?
It was already established that spreader can be anyone - vaccinated or not. Why are you claiming that spreaders are only unvaccinated?
And if vaccine protects, and you are vaccinated, why worry about antivaxers?

The medical experts are saying that the vaccines provide very good protection against the virus, especially with 3 doses. They say There is a huge difference in the amount of unvaccinated people catching and spreading the virus compared to less spreading and catching by vaccinated people which is two of the many reasons the experts say for everybody to get vaccinated.
Simply compare countries or American states. The areas with many unvaccinated people have many more cases and hospitalizations than areas with many vaccinated people. Also compare the numbers of deaths.

Hospitals are so overloaded with unvaccinated cases that they cannot do important surgeries. The hospitals should turn away unvaccinated ***** so that normal vaccinated people can have heart attack surgery, cancer treatments and other very important surgeries and care. The government was spending my tax dollars to fly infected unvaccinated people from areas with overloaded hospitals to the hospital near me because my area has many vaccinated people and many fewer cases and hospitalizations caused by the virus.

I am old (76) and vulnerable so I worry about being near an unvaccinated ****.
My young grandkids are not vaccinated yet so they might catch the virus from kids at school who live with unvaccinated parents then give their virus to me and to all the other old people in the population. Hey, not many people have had the 3rd dose yet.
My triple vaccinations help but not perfectly because I am old.
Maybe you did not learn where the Delta variant and the new Omricon variant came from and why. Those variants came from countries that have few vaccinated people.

 

I think that there is also an accepted train of thought that says that vaccinated people provide the environment that has the selective pressure to make resistant strains emerge.

It still looks like nature is being kind to use because it may have created a very gentle strain (or maybe it could be called a hybrid) that has resistance to the limited efficacy mRNA contrivances, is generally as gentle as the common cold, and confers immunity to the more virulent strains. We can only hope it pans out this way and it is starting to look like it will.

Perhaps ironically, if this happens it might be the result of the limited efficacy mRNA vaccines causing emergence of a beneficial resistant variant in the bodies of vaccinated people. In other words, it worked, but not the way they intended it to.

Of course this is all speculation until Dr. Fauci blesses it.

 

I think that there is also an accepted train of thought that says that vaccinated people provide the environment that has the selective pressure to make resistant strains emerge.

It's a train of thought but it's not accepted by any science in the known universe. Omicron seems to have mutations from a long term infection from a person with low immunity levels like HIV as is unfortunately common in SA. The unvaccinated hordes is the birthplace of resistant strains. Delta came from India long before vaccination.

 

https://cbs12.com/news/local/omicron-is-dominant-in-wastewater-samples-in-florida-county

ORLANDO (AP) — Even though there have been no cases of clinical infection, the new omicron variant is now the dominant strain of COVID-19 in the Florida county that is home to the nation's largest theme park resorts.

 

Some positive mask wearing news, for some.
https://news.wsu.edu/news/2021/12/16/pandemic-masks-level-playing-field-for-hospitality-workers/

PULLMAN, Wash. – While attractive hospitality workers typically earn higher customer service scores than their peers, wearing face masks – a practice widely adopted during the COVID-19 pandemic – levels the playing field, a new study says.

“People’s impressions of physical attractiveness are based mostly on facial features,” said Dogan Gursoy, Taco Bell Distinguished Professor in Hospitality Business Management at the WSU Carson College of Business. “When a mask covers the employee’s face, you don’t know if the person is average-looking or good-looking. It neutralizes the effect of appearance on customer satisfaction ratings.”

 

Some positive mask wearing news, for some.
https://news.wsu.edu/news/2021/12/16/pandemic-masks-level-playing-field-for-hospitality-workers/

Don't most of us guys look at all the goodies on a woman? I am drooling just by thinking about it.

 

Don't most of us guys look at all the goodies on a woman? I am drooling just by thinking about it.

http://directory.business.wsu.edu/Directory/Profile/dgursoy/
The Taco Bell Distinguished Professor in Hospitality Business Management agrees with you.