https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2...navirus-pandemic-response-foster-ctw-vpx.cnni

 

I think that here in the US there is a lot of "You can't tell ME what to do" coming into play. And, because of our form of government, dictatorial edicts do not work and, in fact, are not allowed lest we set loose the lawyers. Which is happening anyway it being in their nature to do so regardless. They make money arguing both sides of the disagreement brought into question for the courts to decide so for them it is a win-win proposal irregardless the outcome since they get paid either way it turns out.

 

I think that here in the US there is a lot of "You can't tell ME what to do" coming into play.

The CEO's of the drug companies are finally seeing the light on that front, no widespread vaccine use until proven safe.
https://www.statnews.com/2020/09/08/pharma-pledge-reassure-covid-19-safety/

 

Here's an interesting approach that Costa Rica has been working on. Horse antibodies:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/...or-trials-as-an-inexpensive-covid-19-therapy/

 

The CEO's of the drug companies are finally seeing the light on that front, no widespread vaccine use until proven safe.
https://www.statnews.com/2020/09/08/pharma-pledge-reassure-covid-19-safety/

No widespread vaccine use but they will still be glad to experiment on you and the public as usual. Meaningless statement of what we already know. Big Pharma is part of the Drug Mafia we all know, love and trust.

 

If my memory serves me correctly, horses were one of the first producers of vaccine antibodies. Later it was chicken embryos which caused severe allergic reactions of those vaccinated that had egg allergies. Rats, mice, guinea pigs, pigs, sheep, cattle, primates, have all been used to produce human vaccines.

 

they will still be glad to experiment on you

This apparently is what Russia intends by dictating that all Teachers and Medical personnel MUST be vaccinated. Which apparently is not going over so well with those intended to be the guinea pigs.

 

If my memory serves me correctly, horses were one of the first producers of vaccine antibodies. Later it was chicken embryos which caused severe allergic reactions of those vaccinated that had egg allergies. Rats, mice, guinea pigs, pigs, sheep, cattle, primates, have all been used to produce human vaccines.

You seem to be confusing vaccines with antibodies. For example, chicken embryos are used to make vaccines. You make the antibodies when injected with the vaccine. Yes, those vaccines had proteins from chickens that can and did cause sever allergic reactions. If you are thinking of the tuberculin skin test, that is neither a vaccine nor antibody. Today, it the organism is grown on synthetic medium and the PPD reagent is relatively free of issues with antigenicity from earlier media that contained egg yolk. Horses were used to make antibodies. The significant side effect of using antibodies from another species is "serum sickness." Of course, horses are more common than elephants, easier to raise in the US, and larger than mouses, so they can make lots of antibodies. Mice are not big enough to make enough antibodies for a human, but their cell cultures can be used to make monoclonal antibodies. We also have human monoclonal antibodies today.

 

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...t-if-politics-trumps-science-approval-process

Q: Have you discussed with the administration the possibility of saying, ‘Let’s not ask for an EUA until after 3 November?’ Let's just clear that off the deck right now, because there's so much worry of an October surprise and something being pushed before 3 November. It's not going to make a difference to the pandemic if there’s a vaccine on 2 November or 4 November.

A: I have to say, maybe even despite my personal political views, that I don't think that's right, because 1000 people die every day [from COVID-19]. If a vaccine [had evidence of safety and efficacy] on 25 October, it should be [requested] on 25 October. If it's 17 November, it should be 17 November. If it's 31 December, it should be 31 December.

It needs to be absolutely shielded from the politics. I cannot control what people say. The president says things, other people will say things. Trust me, there will be no EUA filed if it’s not right.

Q: If you see an EUA push you don’t believe in, you’re out?

A: I’m out. I have to say there has been absolutely no interference. Despite my past, which is still my present, I am still the same person with the same values. The pandemic is much bigger than that. Before being a political person with convictions, humanity has always been my objective.

 

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...t-if-politics-trumps-science-approval-process

And that means he will be the next Fauci?

Was going to post that but you beat me to it. So this is the follow up to that interview.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...ovid-19-vaccine-election-and-why-scares-some#

 

And that means he will be the next Fauci?

Was going to post that but you beat me to it. So this is the follow up to that interview.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...ovid-19-vaccine-election-and-why-scares-some#

Gentlemen,
There's no need to insult Dr. Atlas. What predictions has he made that were wrong?

 

And that means he will be the next Fauci?

Was going to post that but you beat me to it. So this is the follow up to that interview.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...ovid-19-vaccine-election-and-why-scares-some#

The media is creating scares for ad money and ideology brownie points using all sides of all issues from no vaccine to not using the vaccine. Nothing to see here, move along. Same fear-mongering crap from the media about possible misdeeds from X in some possible future. Lets stick to facts.

The U.S. vaccine process IMO is plenty safe because the stakes can't get any higher.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/09/08...d-adverse-reaction-in-participant-in-the-u-k/

 

The U.S. vaccine process IMO is plenty safe because the stakes can't get any higher.

It is “plenty safe” if the process is followed. Political exigencies are attempting to short cut the process. Hence, any vaccine will have an inherent risk factor larger than normal - because the testing protocol is being ignored.

 

It is “plenty safe” if the process is followed. Political exigencies are attempting to short cut the process. Hence, any vaccine will have an inherent risk factor larger than normal - because the testing protocol is being ignored.

Show where this is actually happening beyond someones imagination of it happening. I see the opposite that with extreme caution by testers of current vaccines as per the posted article about AstraZeneca and the pledge by Big Pharma not to be influenced.

 

The U.S. vaccine process IMO is plenty safe because the stakes can't get any higher.

I agree with that statement. But it's the people in charge that have me worried. https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/06/16/fact-sheet-explaining-operation-warp-speed.html

 

Gentlemen,
There's no need to insult Dr. Atlas. What predictions has he made that were wrong?

They haven't used that method since they sent small pox blankets to the tribes, to help immunize them.

 

I agree with that statement. But it's the people in charge that have me worried. https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/06/16/fact-sheet-explaining-operation-warp-speed.html

Still waiting for actual evidence the testing and EUA process has been altered with in any manner by anyone out of the normal scientific vaccine approval chain. I see a lot of talk about what 'could' happen and almost nothing about what 'has' happened to make the process less safe. If there are actual examples outside of Russia and China it would be nice to know about them.

 

If there are actual examples outside of Russia and China it would be nice to know about them.

The vaccine isn't to that point yet. And the election is still not here. Oh I forgot, you partook of the kool-aid.

 

The vaccine isn't to that point yet. And the election is still not here. Oh I forgot, you partook of the kool-aid.

Exactly, there is nothing, yet.

The people drinking The Kool-aid are the ones pretending to tell the future.

 

They haven't used that method since they sent small pox blankets to the tribes, to help immunize them.

What method? At least let us know what you are accusing Dr. Atlas of recommending?