Constant current through IR LEDs

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sab201

Joined Nov 18, 2023
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You still did not answer all the questions, including what is the supply voltage that you consider for this?
A supply Voltage of 12 Volts and power consumption of 15 Watts.

The specs of the electromagnet does not matter now since I gave up on that idea.
 

tonyStewart

Joined May 8, 2012
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LED's and a coil are like comparing a Bic lighter to a blow torch. But maybe you know better.
 

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sab201

Joined Nov 18, 2023
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LED's and a coil are like comparing a Bic lighter to a blow torch. But maybe you know better.
I was calculating that 4 amperes of current flowing through the electromagnet could flow through an IR device in series but the LED diodes is a bad idea since they have voltage drops and as pointed out, it would do disaster in series with the inductance of the electromagnet.

FIRs use high power, I am experimenting with devices that can use max 50 to 60 watts of power.
 

panic mode

Joined Oct 10, 2011
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nice and simple 100mA constant current.
12k and mosfet are normally always on. but 6.8Ohm and NPN on a right are forming a current limiter (~0.6V/6.8A is ~0.1A).and the NPN on the left can be used to dim it.

thanks to limiter, this will produce pretty constant current regardless how many LEDs are in the string (as long as sum of Vf of connected diodes supply voltage... in this case that means less than 12V). one such circuit gives you some 1W (at 12V) but you can connect several such circuits in parallel to get more diodes and power.

you can use same circuit for 50 (or 49) LEDs to get 10W by reducing 6.8Ohm resistor, then connecting more LED strings in parallel. it would be a good idea to replace one of LEDs in each string by a balancing resistor. since LED specs vary (even in a same batch) you could have one string with bunch of LEDs with Vf of 1.2V and another string with bunch of 1.4V. but using resistor helps balance it out so all strings are equally bright.

since one LED is about 1.3V and 100mA, a substitute is balancing resistor on the order of 1.3V/0.1A=13 Ohm.

12 Ohm is a common value and power dissipation is P=I^2 * R = 0.1A *0.1A *12 Ohm =0.12W= 120mW
the current for 7strings instead of 1 is of course 7x larger so 6.8 Ohm/7 = about 1 Ohm.

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panic mode

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the other option is to use LED drivers... everyone makes them but China is where most of LEDs and LED drivers come from. also that is where they are lower cost so using JLC for example and PCBA means you could get them regardless where you are. if you prefer to make own PCBs and solder your self (a great for developing skills and experience) you can buy parts from LCSC. they ship everywhere and that is what you see in all the 12-24V beacons sold on Amazon.

you did not say what part of the world you are in but if getting el cheapo parts (RT9293, PT4115 etc) does not work for you, use search function of some popular electronics distributors (Mouser, DigiKey, Farnel, ...) to identify candidates. or ask Google for 10W LED driver IC for 12V.

https://www.mouser.ca/c/semiconductors/driver-ics/led-lighting-driver-ics/?q=LED driver
 
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