choosing a 1Nm torque motor for my solar panel cleaner !

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Tizana

Joined Nov 17, 2017
3
Hi,


so i'm making a project where a motor should drive a brush all the way up and down of the solar panel in order to clean it,

the rotation of the motor should be at 450RPM with 1nM torque,

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i'm very confused concerning which type of motor should I choose (BLDC, Stepper, Brushed DC, servo …)

there are a lot of type of motors with different prices, so which one should you recommend to me?

Knowing that I want it to be as simple as possible, I would drive it through an arduino or an STM MCU.


I looked for BLDC 1Nm torque and they were rare and expensive at 1Nm, after looking little bit in the internet I noticed that stepper motor is used widely in CNC machine and other different applications and they were cheaper.


For example this one is a (1010 mNm = 1.01Nm) and it cost 55$ : https://www.digikey.com/product-det...l-gmbh/QSH5718-51-28-101/1460-1078-ND/4843429


I want to know if this one can be driven at a speed of 450RPM ? and the maximum torque is constant at 450 RPM or it depend on the speed rotation ?


For BLDC I found this one : http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/dc-motors/8928773/

it cost 146


and I found servo cheaper which has a maximum torque of 1.176Nm at 6 V : https://www.amainhobbies.com/align-ds610-digital-servo-agnhsd61001/p190915


which one should I choose ?


Thanks,
 

Alec_t

Joined Sep 17, 2013
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Welcome to AAC!
What is magic about 450rpm? I would have thought a much slower speed, using a cheap DC brushed gear-motor (e.g. a salvaged car windshield wiper motor), would be perfectly adequate for this task.
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
28,702
+1.
For efficient choice of motor, gearing should be used for that rate of operation.
You motor would result in much smaller than a 1Nm.
Max.
 

Bernard

Joined Aug 7, 2008
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A possible solution to an impractical project with assigned values is ITEM 5-1816, Surplus Center, US $ 15.95, 500 RPM no load, 220 RPM @16 in-lb, 12 VDC @ 22A, intermittent. For fixed RPM closed loop operation required.
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
28,702
I assume you are in UK? If so it narrows the market available.
The Hobby RC servo is not a good candidate.
As mentioned already a auto wreckers may provide some options of motors already including a means of reduction.
Max.
 

Thread Starter

Tizana

Joined Nov 17, 2017
3
guy i need your opinion about this stepper motor ,

i found this one : https://www.digikey.com/product-det...gregator&curr=usd&site=us&utm_source=octopart

it has a maximum torque of 1.89Nm,

and according to the curve in the datasheet page 10, Pps(pulse per second) vs torque, for a rotation speed of 450RPM the torque is 1.5Nm which is good enough for me,
450RPM is equal to 1500 PPs (Pulse per second)
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the problem is with the current rating. in the same page in the TOP they wrote VM : 30v , 2.8A/phase, while in table page 4 they put a current equal to 2.8A for a voltage rated of 3.2V ?

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I didn't get it how the current still the same for different voltage applied ?

thanks for your answer,
 

jjw

Joined Dec 24, 2013
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The curve is for half stepping, 0.9 degrees/pulse.
At 1500 pps you get 225 rpm.
I think the 3.2V / 2.8 A is the coil current, when the motor is not rotating.
 

Thread Starter

Tizana

Joined Nov 17, 2017
3
The curve is for half stepping, 0.9 degrees/pulse.
At 1500 pps you get 225 rpm.
I think the 3.2V / 2.8 A is the coil current, when the motor is not rotating.
thanks you for letting me noticing that, i made my calculation supposing that PPS is equivaltent to 1.8 degrees/pulse. but the curve is for halve stepping so for 0.9degrees/pulse.
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
28,702
The rated current of a stepper motor, 2.8a in this case is the constant mean current that should be applied to the stepper motor at all times, from 0 to max rpm.
This used to be done by a simple series resistor method, now done by using a P.S. higher than the rated voltage and PWM to ensure rated current through the rpm range
Max.
 
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