cheap mosfet...why?

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hertz.12

Joined Apr 25, 2015
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i have received the cheap mosfet irlz44n...the mosfet not opening with 3.3v on gate at all !! is it fake mosfet?
 

ISB123

Joined May 21, 2014
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Sorry I thought you wrote irfz44 which is a power mosfet.Did you test it out with a DMM?Do you have the schematics?
 

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hertz.12

Joined Apr 25, 2015
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Sorry I thought you wrote irfz44 which is a power mosfet.Did you test it out with a DMM?Do you have the schematics?
***Drain-Source = 5v

@ 3.3v on gate ...i get 0A ...no thing

@ 4.2v on gate ...i get 5A & the mosfet get hot quick

@ 5v on gate ... i get 11A (full load) & the mosfet cool
 

Roderick Young

Joined Feb 22, 2015
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The only thing the datasheet seems to guarantee is that at 2.0 volts Vgs, there will be at least 250 uA of current. The other curves are typical, and not guaranteed. That said, it looks like you might have counterfeit or reject devices.
 

ScottWang

Joined Aug 23, 2012
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the load 500mohm Nichrome wire

my setup ... 5v __load__Drain__Source__Ground
IRFZ44N info:
VGS(TO), Gate threshold voltage, VDS = VGS; ID = 1 mA, 2.0V(min), 3.0V(typ), 4.0 V(max)

So if your Vgs of mosfet >3.3V then when you input 3.3V to Vgs then it has no current flows through the Ids.

Vdd = 5V
RL = 0.5Ω

Ids = Vdd/RL
= 5V/0.5Ω
=10A

The above calculation is ignore the Vds(When mosfet is on) and the problem is when the Max Ids is 10A then how can you get 11A? (Is it when the RL getting hot and the resistance decreasing?)
 

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hertz.12

Joined Apr 25, 2015
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IRFZ44N info:
VGS(TO), Gate threshold voltage, VDS = VGS; ID = 1 mA, 2.0V(min), 3.0V(typ), 4.0 V(max)

So if your Vgs of mosfet >3.3V then when you input 3.3V to Vgs then it has no current flows through the Ids.

Vdd = 5V
RL = 0.5Ω

Ids = Vdd/RL
= 5V/0.5Ω
=10A

The above calculation is ignore the Vds(When mosfet is on) and the problem is when the Max Ids is 10A then how can you get 11A? (Is it when the RL getting hot and the resistance decreasing?)
i have irlz44n not irfz44n...so?

the load about 300mohm..not exact
 

ScottWang

Joined Aug 23, 2012
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i have irlz44n not irfz44n...so?

the load about 300mohm..not exact
The IRLZ44N infos:
VGS(th), Gate Threshold Voltage, 1.0(min) -–xx(typ)–– 2.0 V(max), VDS = VGS, ID = 250μA

If your Vgs of mosfet 1V<Vgs<2V then when you input 3.3V to Vgs, it should has current flows through the Ids.

Vdd = 5V
RL = 0.3Ω

Ids = Vdd/RL
= 5V/0.3Ω
=16.67A

>@ 3.3v on gate ...i get 0A ...no thing
The 3.3Vin for Vgs already exceed the Max Vgs(th)=2V, So this could be some problem here.
And the other make sense now.
 

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hertz.12

Joined Apr 25, 2015
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The IRLZ44N infos:
VGS(th), Gate Threshold Voltage, 1.0(min) -–xx(typ)–– 2.0 V(max), VDS = VGS, ID = 250μA

If your Vgs of mosfet 1V<Vgs<2V then when you input 3.3V to Vgs, it should has current flows through the Ids.

Vdd = 5V
RL = 0.3Ω

Ids = Vdd/RL
= 5V/0.3Ω
=16.67A

>@ 3.3v on gate ...i get 0A ...no thing
The 3.3Vin for Vgs already exceed the Max Vgs(th)=2V, So this could be some problem here.
And the other make sense now.
i thing you misunderstand Vgs(th)...if Vgs(th) =2v then the mosfet will pass 250uA..so for turn off fully Vgs must be under about 2V...and to turn on fully (more than 250uA) vgs must be more 2v
 

ScottWang

Joined Aug 23, 2012
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i thing you misunderstand Vgs(th)...if Vgs(th) =2v then the mosfet will pass 250uA..so for turn off fully Vgs must be under about 2V
No, I didn't.
The Vgs(th) of mosfet is 1V<Vgs(th)<2V, that is depends on what you get of the mosfet, maybe the one you get the Vgs(th) = 1.1V, maybe it is Vgs(th) = 1.9V, so when you input 3.3V for the Vgs of mosfet then you should get the reading numbers exceed 250uA from the current meter, but you said no current, that's why I said there were some problems at some where.

If your Vgs(th) of mosfet is 1.1V then the turn off voltage will be <1.1V, if your Vgs(th) of mosfet is 1.9V then the turn off voltage will be <1.9V.
 
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