I think it's quite relevant. You are doing exactly what I described. You are picking aspects of what you like about Fahrenheit.

Yes, that's precisely what I am doing.
But how is that relevant as to whether the Metric System is otherwise the best system for units of measurement.
I have no argument with that.

The otherwise superiority of the Metric system doesn't mean Celsius is the best temperature scale for ambient temperatures.
I think subjectively (or perhaps objectively), it is not.

I would think a scale the breaks a very cold to very hot outdoor ambient into a 0 to 100 degree range with 1 degree being a perceptible change, would be preferable to one that has that range at about -17 degrees to +38 degree with 0.5 degrees been perceptible.

 

Just when I was beginning to have fun

Well deviating form the subject of a thread can be fun.

Kilometer has only one syllable in it: km

And how is that pronounced?
Do you say it's 10 "kim" to town?

 

But how is the relevant as to whether the Metric System is otherwise the best system for units of measurement.

They're just tools.

And, like all tools, you use the best one for the job.

Or, at least the one you can most competently weild.

 

Well deviating form the subject of a thread can be fun.
And how is that pronounced?
Do you say it's 10 "kim" to town?

we say "ki-ló-me-tros" ... it's a mouthful, but it does make one sound sophisticated ...

 

we say "ki-ló-me-tros" ... it's a mouthful, but it does make one sound sophisticated ...

I prefer to pronounce it the same way I do "speedometer". Don't want to try to figure out how to indicate that phonetically.

But I know that it is supposed to be pronounces such that the "meter" part is spoken the same way as when by itself of with the other scaling prefixes, and I understand why. If I force other units, like kilograms, into the pattern I prefer, it sounds absurd. It's just what I grew up with and anything else will probably always sound "wrong" to my ears.

 

we say "ki-ló-me-tros" ... it's a mouthful, but it does make one sound sophisticated ...

Well, being an old farmboy, I guess I'll just stay with the unsophisticated "mile", which is just a small bite rather than a mouthful.
I believe the military pronounces it "klicks", but I'm not too fond of that either.

 

Uh... what does it mean to be at the freezing point (32°F) and the boiling point (212°F) at STP (which is, by definition, a fixed temperature)?

Also, which "STP"? -- there are quite few of them.

Ummm... I quickly edited STP to Standard Pressure... Which is considered "Sea Level", 1 bar, 760mmHg, etc.

 

Either that or live somewhere that uses Celsius and you will soon understand just how hot or cold it really is...

I did somewhat alluded to that... It's what yer used to! What I consider hot or cold is probably not the same for a person living in a different Latitude no matter what their particular thermometer reads... Swimming with us in the cold mountain streams in Tennessee was not even possible for my visiting Florida cousins back in the day.

 

I used Celsius for 40+ years in my engineering career, but it never felt particularly intuitive.

you should talk to people from other parts of the world about how intuitive they find Fahrenheit scale. because their entire life they used Celsius scale, not for personal comfort but to get a sense of temperature in general including one of the most common tasks - food preparation. with references (freezing/boiling of water) chosen as something that everyone has witnessed countless times.

<-10degC = really cold
<0degC = cold
<10degC = fairly cold
18degC = perfect
22degC = perfect (according to wife)
36degC = body temperature
45degC = too hot to hold
100degC = water boiling

when they hear "it is 50deg" they do not think it is cool, they likely imagine heat catastrophe...
as mentioned, we are all creatures of habit. for someone that never hears of Fahrenheit, who gets daily weather reports in Celsius. this becomes very natural. just like speaking in whatever local language is. both language and unit systems take time to "imprint" on ones mind. this is why it is hard to get out of what one is used to and try something else. effort to recalculate or lookup reference points is what makes it inconvenient.

 

you should talk to people from other parts of the world about how intuitive they find Fahrenheit scale. because their entire life they used Celsius scale, not for personal comfort but to get a sense of temperature in general including one of the most common tasks - food preparation. with references (freezing/boiling of water) chosen as something that everyone has witnessed countless times.

<-10degC = really cold
<0degC = cold
<10degC = fairly cold
18degC = perfect
22degC = perfect (according to wife)
36degC = body temperature
45degC = too hot to hold
100degC = water boiling

when they hear "it is 50deg" they do not think it is cool, they likely imagine heat catastrophe...
as mentioned, we are all creatures of habit. for someone that never hears of Fahrenheit, who gets daily weather reports in Celsius. this becomes very natural. just like speaking in whatever local language is. both language and unit systems take time to "imprint" on ones mind. this is why it is hard to get out of what one is used to and try something else. effort to recalculate or lookup reference points is what makes it inconvenient.

I’ll add:
coldest office temperature at which you can be expected to work (UK) 16°C
Municipal shower temperature 41°C
chicken or burgers cooked 75°C
TSC solder melts 217°C
but I‘d put ”too hot to hold” rather higher than you do.

 

I’ll add:
coldest office temperature at which you can be expected to work (UK) 16°C
Municipal shower temperature 41°C
chicken or burgers cooked 75°C
TSC solder melts 217°C
but I‘d put ”too hot to hold” rather higher than you do.

As an engineer/scientist who works in °C but lives in °F, those numbers feel so random.

 

I built a microprocessor based thermometer, it displays in colors.

Pulsing Blue = too cold
Pulsing Magenta = Too hot

And of course, a spread of other colors = actual temperatures in Fahrenheit.

"ahhh, it's nice and yellow in here today"

 

you should talk to people from other parts of the world about how intuitive they find Fahrenheit scale.

That was part of the purpose of starting this thread.
The consensus seems to be that, whichever temperature scale you grew up with is the one that seems the best.
I can live with that (and I'm glad I grew up with Fahrenheit).

 

Is Fahrenheit an inconvenience when you need a temperature in Kelvin for a calculation? With Celsius, just add 273.15

 

Is Fahrenheit an inconvenience when you need a temperature in Kelvin for a calculation? With Celsius, just add 273.15

No, you just add 491.67 to make Rankine.

 

Is Fahrenheit an inconvenience when you need a temperature in Kelvin for a calculation? With Celsius, just add 273.15

Yes it is.
But in all my technical work I used the Celsius scale as all the tech requirements were in Celsius (expect for the thermostats in my office building, which were in Fahrenheit ).
My use of Fahrenheit was/is for ambient room/outdoor temperature readings in a non-technical environment.
I suppose it could be considered a disadvantage to use both Fahrenheit and Celsius temperature scales, but I'm used to it.

 

they used Celsius scale, not for personal comfort but to get a sense of temperature in general including one of the most common tasks - food preparation. with references (freezing/boiling of water) chosen as something that everyone has witnessed countless times.

<-10degC = really cold
<0degC = cold
<10degC = fairly cold
18degC = perfect
22degC = perfect (according to wife)
36degC = body temperature
45degC = too hot to hold
100degC = water boiling

So for comparison:

<-10degC = really cold ---- ----------- 4°F
<0degC = cold ------------------------- 32°F
<10degC = fairly cold-------------------50°F
18degC = perfect------------------------64°F
22degC = perfect (according to wife) --72°F
36degC = body temperature------------96.8°F (we consider 98.6°F or 37°C to be body temperature)
45degC = too hot to hold---------------113°F
100degC = water boiling----------------212°F

and Ian0's additions:

Municipal shower temperature 41°C--106°F
chicken or burgers cooked 75°C-------167°F
TSC solder melts 217°C ----------------423°F

 

That was part of the purpose of starting this thread.
The consensus seems to be that, whichever temperature scale you grew up with is the one that seems the best.
I can live with that (and I'm glad I grew up with Fahrenheit).

A little of the opposite for me,grew up with F then experienced a national conversion to C (UK).
then experienced the same switch in Can.
Now Much prefer Metric !

 

Now Much prefer Metric !

The reason being?

 

One.Metric much easier to remember prime points, I just prefer working im Metric generally.