Australia is crazy, Covid.

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killivolt

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And You should have a lot of questions.
You should question EVERYTHING, ALL THE TIME
Unfortunately most people don't question "Authority" .... ever,
it would never even enter their minds to even consider questioning "Authority". Why ?

I've been questioning "Authority" since the 3rd-Grade, (~1966),
when I learned about the Constitution,
and then looked around and said, wait a minute ..........
virtually everything the government does violates the Constitution ?!?!?!?! Why ?

It's taken me ~54-years to finally figure out what is ACTUALLY going on in this World,
and it's nothing You could imagine in your wildest dreams.

Its also a movie plot which can not be easily explained to anyone who has not been on the same quest,
without totally putting them into a spin and breaking their reality.

It's all a movie, actually no, it's the biggest, most outlandish, over-the-top, "Soap-Opera" ever,
with a "Star-Wars" flavor thrown-in for good measure.

It's right in front of your face, and You can't see it .......... Why ?

One very tiny example .......... Words .......
Take this one, the word "Police",
the Police are "Policy-Enforcers", and only enforce real "Laws" by accident, ( and only on occasion ).
Why do You think that 150 years ago, a Cop was called a "Law-Man" or a "Peace-Officer", but not today.
The change in terms was not by accident. Why ?

There are literally thousands of words that mean something totally different than
"What-Everybody-Knows" or the false definition that is blindly accepted by 99% of the population. Why ?

And this is only a very-very small example.

Question everything .........
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Very convincing. Lets begin with you.


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LowQCab

Joined Nov 6, 2012
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Why would You want to begin with me ?
there are millions of un-asked questions,
and millions of questions that You had no idea were a "thing".

Are You saying that I should be questioned because I question "Authority" ?
If this is so, then THAT is the biggest problem we all face.
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k1ng 1337

Joined Sep 11, 2020
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Here's something wild:

About an hour after I made my post here about being unvaccinated, I received a text message on my phone to deposit $100 via e-transfer titled "Alberta COVID Incentive Agency". About 6 months ago the province was indeed offering $100 to get vaccinations but that offer expired. This new text is clearly a scam which had false pages for every financial institution. I entered false information and it was set up so that I wouldn't notice only to get my banking information. Obviously the fatal flaw in the scam was having already sent the supposed money. Crazy?
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/vacci...-get-omicron-but-protection-fades-fast-study/

Vaccinated kids half as likely to get Omicron, but protection fades fast — study
Israeli children who were vaccinated against the coronavirus are catching the Omicron variant at less than half the rate of their unvaccinated peers, according to new research released late Wednesday.

The study, thought to be the first of its kind, is a rare bright spot for Israel as it contends with a massive wave of infections sweeping across the country. As of Wednesday evening, nearly 400,000 Israelis had active COVID infections, representing over 4 percent of the entire population, with 60,000 to 70,000 new cases being added daily.

The research looked into children aged 5-11, a group that became eligible for vaccines in late November, and found that the vaccines offered strong protection against coronavirus variants, especially in the first few months after being administered.
https://apnews.com/article/coronavi...irus-vaccine-c283d0644db46578f18b0b1aa1bfb9a0

In reversal, FDA puts brakes on COVID shots for kids under 5
 

Audioguru again

Joined Oct 21, 2019
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Those who are affected (by the Covid virus) are already at the end of their life?
My age is past the average American man's lifetime and is at the average Canadian man's lifetime. But I am not near the end of my life because I have 3 doses of Covid-19 vaccine and I do not go near any antivaxxers. I follow what the medical experts say to do. Same for the Flu shot I get every year.

I am glad that the vaccine is keeping me and people I associate with alive.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pre...onoclonal-antibody-treatment-covid-19-retains
Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued an emergency use authorization (EUA) for a new monoclonal antibody for the treatment of COVID-19 that retains activity against the omicron variant. The EUA for bebtelovimab is for the treatment of mild to moderate COVID-19 in adults and pediatric patients (12 years of age and older weighing at least 40 kilograms, which is about 88 pounds) with a positive COVID-19 test, and who are at high risk for progression to severe COVID-19, including hospitalization or death, and for whom alternative COVID-19 treatment options approved or authorized by the FDA are not accessible or clinically appropriate.
 

panic mode

Joined Oct 10, 2011
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Those who are affected (by the Covid virus) are already at the end of their life?
My age is past the average American man's lifetime and is at the average Canadian man's lifetime. But I am not near the end of my life because I have 3 doses of Covid-19 vaccine and I do not go near any antivaxxers. I follow what the medical experts say to do. Same for the Flu shot I get every year.

I am glad that the vaccine is keeping me and people I associate with alive.

Very well... Best wishes to you, long live and prosper. May Covid boosters protect you.

There are exceptions to every rule. You may be fitter than most of your contemporaries. And there is some poor child that is suffering rather than playing and enjoying life. But those are exceptions of the rule.

So you may feel great but statistically your age group is at the end of the rope, many are barely clinging to life, living in pain and misery while undergoing various medical treatments. Data also strongly suggests that your age group is very strongly affected by Covid so benefits of vaccine are significantly outweighing any risks (specially long term).

For children that is not the case, it is rather the opposite.. Many of children will live long lives, vast majority is not in excruciating pain or on some medical protocol. And they are the least affected group, in fact data shows that Covid caused to children less harm than common flu. But since long term effects of the vaccine are not known, and they are young, that puts them at risk.

Medical treatments need to be devised based on facts and after taking everything into consideration. Sorry to be honest and realistic but many people out there not willing to subject themselves and specially their children to something they may have risks outweigh the benefits.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1105431/covid-case-fatality-rates-us-by-age-group/
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/03/coronavirus-young-people-hospitalized-covid-19-chart/


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xox

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Another thing that concerns me is that many of these MRNA vaccines produce volumes of spike protein complexes. That might not have been such a great idea. If for example it turns out that they are in fact latching onto cells, that could plausibly present a serious issue with "crowding" of organ spaces, potentially disrupting cellular functions in the process.

There are still so many open questions...
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Another thing that concerns me is that many of these MRNA vaccines produce volumes of spike protein complexes. That might not have been such a great idea. If for example it turns out that they are in fact latching onto cells, that could plausibly present a serious issue with "crowding" of organ spaces, potentially disrupting cellular functions in the process.

There are still so many open questions...
The effect is temporary, our cells break down the mRNA and remove it. That's pretty basic. Researchers have been studying and working with mRNA vaccines for decades.
https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/where-mrna-vaccines-and-spike-proteins-go
How long mRNA lasts in the body
The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines work by introducing mRNA (messenger RNA) into your muscle cells. The cells make copies of the spike protein and the mRNA is quickly degraded (within a few days). The cell breaks the mRNA up into small harmless pieces. mRNA is very fragile; that's one reason why mRNA vaccines must be so carefully preserved at very low temperatures.

How long spike proteins last in the body
The Infectious Disease Society of America (IDSA) estimates that the spike proteins that were generated by COVID-19 vaccines last up to a few weeks, like other proteins made by the body. The immune system quickly identifies, attacks and destroys the spike proteins because it recognizes them as not part of you. This "learning the enemy" process is how the immune system figures out how to defeat the real coronavirus. It remembers what it saw and when you are exposed to coronavirus in the future it can rapidly mount an effective immune response.
The same effect happens with a real virus infection but the long and short term risks are obviously higher because those real virus spike protein complexes can kill you.
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Audioguru again

Joined Oct 21, 2019
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Medical experts say that the mRNA vaccine is safe and effective therefore millions or billions of doses have been given. Very few problems occurred except Myocarditis that formed in a few boys who got Maderna vaccine. Most or all boys survived.

Many lives were saved since the virus killed many unvaccinated people but vaccinated people had mild or no symptoms.
Many hospitalizations were prevented by the vaccines since areas with many unvaccinated people had their hospitals over-run with unvaccinated people causing other deaths. The over-run hospitals prevented normal heart attacks, cancers and other non-Covid medical problems to be treated.

New versions of the Covid-19 virus formed in areas with many unvaccinated people such as the Delta version in India and the Omicron in South Africa.
 

justtrying

Joined Mar 9, 2011
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Which is part of why I still consider the mRNA vaccines and the new protein vaccine to be experimental.
It is experimental. And the real problem is tracking adverse effects and the fact that it was difficult to link them to vaccine before and it is impossible to link them to this vaccine in particular due to the powers at play now

A coworker had her booster about a week ago. She is on holter monitor now for heart palpitations. As she wears a fit bit, she realized that her heart problems started the day she got her booster.

Here is the issue - if you are of certain age with certain conditions, a vaccine may well push you over the edge. This will never be acknowledged as the cause. Obviously COViD may do the same. But, do you not have a right to choose?
 

Audioguru again

Joined Oct 21, 2019
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In 2 days I am getting an ECG because my heartbeats frequently are missing a beat noticed after my Pfizer booster dose.
But I feel fine. I was on a Holter monitor 12 years ago after my heart attack was fixed with 2 stents in its arteries.

My second Pfizer dose caused tinnitus sounds and they became louder after my booster dose. The Tinnitus does not bother me.

I assume the 3 doses of vaccine I got kept me from getting Covid-19 and kept me away from hospitalization, a ventilator in the ICU and death. My mask and vaccination passport allowed me to do many normal activities that are not allowed for antivaxxers.

I see that Australia and France had some Mandate protestors today. Many protestors in Canada today are actually Antivax Americans who sneaked across the border somehow and are funded by donations from America. They came here to party and cause trouble since they were fired from their jobs because they are not vaccinated.
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
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It is experimental. And the real problem is tracking adverse effects and the fact that it was difficult to link them to vaccine before and it is impossible to link them to this vaccine in particular due to the powers at play now

A coworker had her booster about a week ago. She is on holter monitor now for heart palpitations. As she wears a fit bit, she realized that her heart problems started the day she got her booster.

Here is the issue - if you are of certain age with certain conditions, a vaccine may well push you over the edge. This will never be acknowledged as the cause. Obviously COViD may do the same. But, do you not have a right to choose?
Oddly, never thought about it that way. Seems I can sit in theater and not get it, then the guy next to me might. Is it specific to my DNA? Suddenly I feel I’m a target lol

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panic mode

Joined Oct 10, 2011
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Medical experts say that the mRNA vaccine is safe and effective therefore millions or billions of doses have been given. Very few problems occurred except Myocarditis that formed in a few boys who got Maderna vaccine. Most or all boys survived.

That does not sound safe to me. I bet it does not sound safe to boys either.

And as unpacked by the good doctor, risks go up 100x of times and that is from CDC's own data. Which CDC tried to obfuscate.
very interesting:
 

panic mode

Joined Oct 10, 2011
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you had heart attack, then surgery, was on Holter monitor. that was 12 tears ago and now your age is already at the national life expectancy. right now your heart is again acting up and frequently skipping beat, you continue seeing cardiologist. and you also stated that your health problems are compounded with every time you receive new dose. i hope you are ok but to me that does not sound as a very good news.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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That does not sound safe to me. I bet it does not sound safe to boys either.

And as unpacked by the good doctor, risks go up 100x of times and that is from CDC's own data. Which CDC tried to obfuscate.
Most things are "not safe".
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...-killer/ee85631a-c426-42c4-bda7-ed63db993106/
DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE: UNRECOGNIZED KILLER
Murray, whose organization "looks out for misleading science that's driving public policy over a cliff," ran across the Zohner story a few months ago on the Internet. But he writes, "we thought it sounded like an urban myth -- too pat, too neat." He discovered from local press reports that it was indeed true. I confirmed it too, after talking earlier this week with Nathan's mom, Marivene, who says that Nathan wants to be "a scientist in the nuclear field," like his dad.

The implications of Nathan's research are so disturbing that I've decided to coin a term: "Zohnerism," defined as the use of a true fact to lead a scientifically and mathematically ignorant public to a false conclusion.
It's really about the acceptance of risks in a dangerous world.
 
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