They were taken seriously all the way back to the 1940's. We saw the things on our ships, planes and seldom gave chase because we all knew they were Foo Fighters 'that posed no threat to personnel or operations'. The Soviets saw the same sorts of things.

I've never seen anything at all suspicious before, but when I was working during the 1970's with a SheetMetal Contractor we were out of town and drove some 3 hrs to the job site one night on the way back we started talking about UFO's, I asked him what he thought about the subject I told him I've never seen anything of the sort thinking it was all hogwash. It's in a serious tone of the voice he said their real.

I was taken aback because he was a no bullshite kind of dude, I said ah "Bullshite" are you saying you saw something, he said not only did I see it, so did a half a dozen people on deck that night, and it didn't happen just once over a period of a week off and on, he claimed it came out of the water hovering 20 yards out and about 30 feet off the water. It wobbled a little then would zip away and then disappear down off the horizon. Usually appearing at sunset.

This is the first time I've told the story, only because it happened during WWII, and your talking F00-Fighters. He said he had never told anyone about it, they were sworn to secrecy by the acting officer on duty that night. He said it was spooky, he could see lights all around the craft.

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He said he had never told anyone about it, they were sworn to secrecy by the acting officer on duty that night.

I find that the most aggravating part of all these stories. Ok, this was wartime and things are sensitive, but why is the first knee-jerk reaction of ‘authorities’ always to hide data from the public? Who the F do they think they are?

 

I find that the most aggravating part of all these stories. Ok, this was wartime and things are sensitive, but why is the first knee-jerk reaction of ‘authorities’ always to hide data from the public? Who the F do they think they are?

As far as the 'UFO' sightings go I don't think the security was very strict because of pure secrecy. It was because of the Voodoo nature of the subject. It wasn't helpful to a good career in most cases to talk about strange lights.

 

I find that the most aggravating part of all these stories. Ok, this was wartime and things are sensitive, but why is the first knee-jerk reaction of ‘authorities’ always to hide data from the public? Who the F do they think they are?

I have no idea, I've thought about it for the longest time. During war time could someone at war time be so paranoid that when an officer say's keep it secret and your a patriot at this time your giving away secrets the Military doesn't want you to know? I can't know what people think nor could I possibly understand an Officers reaction to the event?

It's all speculation, I simply don't get people and their reactions to anything?

kv

 

As far as the 'UFO' sightings go I don't think the security was very strict because of pure secrecy. It was because of the Voodoo nature of the subject. It wasn't helpful to a good career in most cases to talk about strange lights.

Thats funny lol.

kv

 

Thats funny lol.

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I must have seen dozens of FLASH traffic type intercept reports on 'UFO' type radar contacts that went directly into the VooDoo locker. I don't know what they are but it seems unlikely that aliens is the answer.

 

it seem unlikely that aliens is the answe

My opinion too... I normally let occam's razor do the job

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http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_t..._defense_should_help_us_hide_from_aliens.html

Assuming that there are aliens out there—and that they’re technologically advanced enough to cross the massive chasm of space that separates us—it’s unlikely that they’d see us as anything but insects. Though they might not do so maliciously, their first response to contact might be to send in the exterminators. In its most cynical form, this premise has come to be associated with the work of Chinese science fiction writer Liu Cixin. Here’s how Ross Andersen lays out Liu’s concerns in a recent article for the Atlantic:

No civilization should ever announce its presence to the cosmos, [Liu] says. Any other civilization that learns of its existence will perceive it as a threat to expand—as all civilizations do, eliminating their competitors until they encounter one with superior technology and are themselves eliminated. This grim cosmic outlook is called “dark-forest theory,” because it conceives of every civilization in the universe as a hunter hiding in a moonless woodland, listening for the first rustlings of a rival.

 

Life here is periodic. This imposes aggressive competition.

For someone to come here.......travel time...PLUS...evolution time....learning time.......MAYBE their life won't be periodic........OR.......a very very long period. AND MAYBE.......not aggressive?

Maybe they refuse/curtain contact and don't want to be bothered with our life style.

 

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_t..._defense_should_help_us_hide_from_aliens.html

I understand the argument... but I disagree with it. If a civilization is advanced enough to reach us, then it might as well reach anywhere they want. And they could terra-form any planet that they wished. We as humans are a cruel species, but we're not completely stupid, we still care about nature and other species, even if it's to advance our own interests.

 

As far as the 'UFO' sightings go I don't think the security was very strict because of pure secrecy. It was because of the Voodoo nature of the subject. It wasn't helpful to a good career in most cases to talk about strange lights.

That’s sad but probably true. An honest reporting of what one observed is a crucial part of science but most people aren’t scientists. They have little to gain and much to lose by speaking up. An Army friend (a WWII gunnery seargent) once told me his advice for surviving the Army: keep your mouth shut, bowels open, and never volunteer.

 

I understand the argument... but I disagree with it. If a civilization is advanced enough to reach us, then it might as well reach anywhere they want. And they could terra-form any planet that they wished. We as humans are a cruel species, but we're not completely stupid, we still care about nature and other species, even if it's to advance our own interests.

No, they don't give shit's, they just want a petrie dish "Earth" and we're just lab rats. he he

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Edit: They probably rob our garbage dumps for rare earth minerals or something just because we throw better stuff out than we understand as valuable. Kind of like Bat dung.

 

No, they don't give shit's, they just want a petrie dish "Earth" and we're just lab rats. he he

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I think we'd be more like ants... to be observed only, and not to be interfered with... until we start becoming dangerous to them, at least.

 

I think we'd be more like ants... to be observed only, and not to be interfered with... until we start becoming dangerous to them, at least.

Like how Fire Ants love to eat away electrical stuff.

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We've only been broadcasting for a little over a hundred years. One hundred light years. It's 26 thousand light years the the center of MW. And we don't put out like a star. How far could it go?

Now if we could arrange a super nova......with some kind of modulation.....we might get an answer.

Personally......I wouldn't make the call.

 

Personally......I wouldn't make the call.

Not using our sun as transmitter... at least...

 

We've only been broadcasting for a little over a hundred years. One hundred light years. It's 26 thousand light years the the center of MW. And we don't put out like a star. How far could it go?

Now if we could arrange a super nova......with some kind of modulation.....we might get an answer.

Personally......I wouldn't make the call.

Most likely it's like a conveyer belt, we shed more planets that die before they can reach us. Time is a bitch.

kv

 

Thinking on it......if I could arrange a supernova and modulate it........I probably would make the call.

Arrogance is hard to give up. And not our star of course. We want a large star. Yuge.

 

Maybe they refuse/curtain contact and don't want to be bothered with our life style.

Or they live by the 'Prime Directive'.

 

I'm afraid they might have the Human 'Prime rib Directive'.