Aliens at last?

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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Well, they haven't explained the main finding, the sporadic dimming. They only explained the century-long "dimming". I suppose the latter might have seemed like evidence of a structure being built over time.
 

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cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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Well, they haven't explained the main finding, the sporadic dimming. They only explained the century-long "dimming". I suppose the latter might have seemed like evidence of a structure being built over time.
:eek: I hadn't thought of that!.... guess the game's still on then :D
 

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cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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This looks very interesting:

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/30/health/seti-signal-hd-164595-alien-civilization/index.html

"The signal from HD 164595 is intriguing, because it comes from the vicinity of a sun-like star, and if it's artificial, its strength is great enough that it was clearly made by a civilization with capabilities beyond those of humankind,"

I wonder, will an alien civilization be discovered in my lifetime? It would be exciting to watch how history unravels after such an event.
 

tcmtech

Joined Nov 4, 2013
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I wonder, will an alien civilization be discovered in my lifetime? It would be exciting to watch how history unravels after such an event.
The Churches will go monkey poop over it though. Someone else living in the neighborhood will really throw a wrench in many their base belief systems. :oops:

Now that will be entertaining to watch! :D
 

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cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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The Churches will go monkey poop over it though. Someone else living in the neighborhood will really throw a wrench in many their base belief systems. :oops:

Now that will be entertaining to watch! :D
Some Churches will ... I don't want to discuss religion here (and by all means, please do avoid it), but for clarification purposes, the Catholic Church had already contemplated the possibility of the existence of aliens in other worlds since the 16th century.

http://www.universetoday.com/44713/vatican-holds-conference-on-extraterrestrial-life/#
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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Some Churches will ... I don't want to discuss religion here (and by all means, please do avoid it), but for clarification purposes, the Catholic Church had already contemplated the possibility of the existence of aliens in other worlds since the 16th century.

http://www.universetoday.com/44713/vatican-holds-conference-on-extraterrestrial-life/#
My daughter is in a private Catholic school. If I've learned anything from this experience, it's that the CC loves money. A few more civilizations bequeathing tithes to the Vatican would likely be a welcome development for them.
 

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cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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If I've learned anything from this experience, it's that the CC loves money.
It depends of what branch of the Church you're talking about (and please remember that they're human)... and on the other hand, it's also the largest charitable organization in the world, and one of the most efficient and with less overhead ...
But please ... let's stay on subject here
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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The Churches will go monkey poop over it though. Someone else living in the neighborhood will really throw a wrench in many their base belief systems. :oops:

Now that will be entertaining to watch! :D
I agree it will be entertaining. But I suspect they all will (and already do) view it as an existential threat and will rush to compartmentalize the threat. I mean they'll take the approach that they never denied the possibility, the news changes nothing, and so on, so that the faithful can simply continue on bestowing power and tribute to the church leaders. Trying to deny obvious reality is not a long run strategy, it will be better to accept but trivialize it.

The big challenge will come if this civilization has religions that conflict directly with human ones. It's unlikely that they will have invented religion as humans did. We probably won't live long enough to watch those sparks fly, but it would be fascinating to watch.
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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This looks very interesting:

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/30/health/seti-signal-hd-164595-alien-civilization/index.html

"The signal from HD 164595 is intriguing, because it comes from the vicinity of a sun-like star, and if it's artificial, its strength is great enough that it was clearly made by a civilization with capabilities beyond those of humankind,"

I wonder, will an alien civilization be discovered in my lifetime? It would be exciting to watch how history unravels after such an event.
It's a lot less interesting when you see who made the quote:

Douglas Vakoch, PhD, received his PhD in Clinical Psychology with a Quantitative Concentration from the State University of New York at Stony Brook. His earlier training was in comparative religion with an emphasis on Buddhism (BA, Carleton College) and in the history and philosophy of science (MA, University of Notre Dame). Dr. Vakoch is a licensed psychologist in the state of California, and his psychological research and clinical interests include topics in psychotherapy, ecopsychology, and methodologies of psychological research.
Just sayin'
 

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cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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It's a lot less interesting when you see who made the quote:

Douglas Vakoch, PhD, received his PhD in Clinical Psychology with a Quantitative Concentration from the State University of New York at Stony Brook. His earlier training was in comparative religion with an emphasis on Buddhism (BA, Carleton College) and in the history and philosophy of science (MA, University of Notre Dame). Dr. Vakoch is a licensed psychologist in the state of California, and his psychological research and clinical interests include topics in psychotherapy, ecopsychology, and methodologies of psychological research.
Just sayin'
Bummer... hate to say it, but you're right... I didn't pay attention to that
 

BR-549

Joined Sep 22, 2013
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This is hilarious. No one knows who we are, where we come from, and why we are. Or how we are.

And yet aliens will upset our place and understanding in the universe.

The only ones that will poop, are the academic believers.

Aliens would reveal that the standard model and general relativity are the greatest crackpot theories of all time.

Notice I said would, not will. We would have detected intelligent life by now.
 

RichardO

Joined May 4, 2013
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I doubt that much will change on the discovery of ET. First will be some panic. Then someone will find a way to make a buck or two from it. End of panic. :D
 
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