So you haven't designed it yet, but you have it priced... does that include boxes, freight, freight again, your time, etc? doubt it. It'll be 100-200 @ 1000pcs. And don't forget the time of your prospective partner.

 

Actually you are wrong regarding the payoff. The market is there and I know it because I am part of that market. There is a big community of these specific cars and they all have issues with this board simply because it is old. I already proposed my idea in several places and had parts companies contact me asking to buy in bulk. So I know this will sell. I am willing to put my money into the development and production of such unit.

It doesn't really matter to me since I started a company, made a fortune, and I'm now happily retired. I'm glad you have confidence in this project and I wish you well.

 

So you haven't designed it yet, but you have it priced... does that include boxes, freight, freight again, your time, etc? doubt it. It'll be 100-200 @ 1000pcs. And don't forget the time of your prospective partner.

EDIT: I agree with @Travm wholeheartedly.
This will be a tough niche to make significant bucks in. There is also a risk that you will order too many at some point and end up having boxes of chicklets that nobody wants. It happened to us and it can happen to you. You just haven't experienced that particular agony of the business yet.

 

This will be a tough niche to make significant bucks in. There is also a risk that you will order too many at some point and end up having boxes of chicklets that nobody wants. It happened to us and it can happen to you. You just haven't experienced that particular agony of the business yet.

Misquote?

 

Misquote?

No, but rather adding onto to what you said, with which I wholeheartedly agree.

 

Misquote?

I understand the risks involved. I’m willing to take them.

 

I understand the risks involved. I’m willing to take them.

You should look within your market for a partner. Only someone with an interest in your cars would be willing to lose money (time) on this venture.

 

This is not the best venue for finding a business partner or an adequately skilled consulting engineer.

 

This is not the best venue for finding a business partner or an adequately skilled consulting engineer.

Because most of us are retired or just hobbyists. Look for a local small business incubator, they may have resources for you to tap into.

 

So you haven't designed it yet, but you have it priced... does that include boxes, freight, freight again, your time, etc? doubt it. It'll be 100-200 @ 1000pcs. And don't forget the time of your prospective partner.

You determined that by yourself. You don't know what I have or have not done to get the price quote I got.

 

I am glad that I am not involved in these negotiations this time.

 

I am glad that I am not involved in these negotiations this time.

What negotiations?

 

Indeed. There has been some selling and some tire kicking, but there don't seem to be any actual negotiations. That's just my opinion, and I could be wrong.

 

You determined that by yourself. You don't know what I have or have not done to get the price quote I got.

You said you're looking for someone to help design a PCB and circuit.
You cannot have a quote for manufacturing that at this time. I am a designer, I understand the process. If you think you've been quoted a price to build something that hasn't been designed yet, you are in more trouble than I thought.

I also looked at your photo. Delivering a product can cost upwards of 10x the sum of parts. Or even more. If you wanted to build a one off, and your time was worthless, you could do it for $40. Factor in your time, $600.

I earn a living estimating things, granted I'm shooting from the hip a bit on this, I'm bloody good at it.

 

You said you're looking for someone to help design a PCB and circuit.
You cannot have a quote for manufacturing that at this time. I am a designer, I understand the process. If you think you've been quoted a price to build something that hasn't been designed yet, you are in more trouble than I thought.

I also looked at your photo. Delivering a product can cost upwards of 10x the sum of parts. Or even more. If you wanted to build a one off, and your time was worthless, you could do it for $40. Factor in your time, $600.

I earn a living estimating things, granted I'm shooting from the hip a bit on this, I'm bloody good at it.

I believe you. I was involved in small quantity design and manufacturing for over a decade and I was able to retire on it because I was bloody good at it as well.

 

You said you're looking for someone to help design a PCB and circuit.
You cannot have a quote for manufacturing that at this time. I am a designer, I understand the process. If you think you've been quoted a price to build something that hasn't been designed yet, you are in more trouble than I thought.

I also looked at your photo. Delivering a product can cost upwards of 10x the sum of parts. Or even more. If you wanted to build a one off, and your time was worthless, you could do it for $40. Factor in your time, $600.

I earn a living estimating things, granted I'm shooting from the hip a bit on this, I'm bloody good at it.

I already had prototypes made and price estimation.

so I know what I'm looking at as far as cost.

 

I already had prototypes made and price estimation.

so I know what I'm looking at as far as cost.

So what was the point of this thread again?

 

So what was the point of this thread again?

To find help / partner willing to work for free in exchange for a speculative payoff.

 

I have my very strong doubts of this making any money since all of the newer cars don't even have an idle air valve any more. Quote, "These days, most new cars have electronic throttle control (ETC), eliminating the need for an IAC." From - https://www.carparts.com/blog/symptoms-of-a-bad-idle-air-control-valve/ Ever since the throttle cable went away so did the IAC so unless people are going to keep driving pre- 2000 cars the need for this item grows smaller every year.

 

I have my very strong doubts of this making any money since all of the newer cars don't even have an idle air valve any more. Quote, "These days, most new cars have electronic throttle control (ETC), eliminating the need for an IAC." From - https://www.carparts.com/blog/symptoms-of-a-bad-idle-air-control-valve/ Ever since the throttle cable went away so did the IAC so unless people are going to keep driving pre- 2000 cars the need for this item grows smaller every year.

I was wondering about how many 1980's vintage cars are still out there. This is post #40 and I don't see anybody lining up for a crack at this problem so maybe its time to let this thread go.