Windows 12 with AI

Alec_t

Joined Sep 17, 2013
15,118
Windows already thinks it knows what you want to do. Further baby-sitting by AI is not appealing.
I wonder how many users will abandon ship and go over to Linux?
 

geekoftheweek

Joined Oct 6, 2013
1,429
I bought my first new computer in about 30 years a few weeks back after Android Studio ran my previous one out of RAM and it spent 15 minutes moving stuff between RAM and swap space before it finally worked itself out. I've always had good luck with a few shops selling used equipment and for the price and what I use it for it has always worked just fine. I guess I just wanted to see what the latest and greatest can do.

Long story short... I decided to give Windows 11 a go since I paid for it and it was already installed. I made it to the the initial screen where it required an email address to set up the initial account and I could not find a way around it. There is absolutely no reason you should have to enter a email address to start up a simple computer. I can understand signing up for things after the fact, but not for the initial start up.

Turned off power, located the Debian CD I had already burned before disconnecting the old computer, and a few hours later it was time to get busy. The NVidia drivers took some sorting out to get right, but I was expecting a little trouble there from the research I did before ordering the computer.

Linus is a good dude!!!
 

sagor

Joined Mar 10, 2019
1,049
There is a way to create a local account in win11 when it first starts to install. Search the internet on how to set up a local account. It involves disconnecting internet and running a command prompt during Initial setup. I don’t recall exact details, but found it on the internet real easy. Running a laptop with local user account only now.
 

KeithWalker

Joined Jul 10, 2017
3,607
I still do most of my everyday computing stuff in XP, It works just fine, and I have had the Microsoft updates blocked ever since service pack 3. It is a nice, stable platform for predictable, everyday tekky use like drawing and printing circuits and hardware parts. I rarely get any hacking problems and when I do, they are very simple to eliminate. I do my banking and internet on a Windows 8 computer that has a good anti-virus software installed and updates blocked. It performs well at the tasks I use it for.
I have a Windows 10S laptop that I just use for programming micro-controllers. Every day I pray that Microsoft will not force an update on it that will make it un-usable. Luckily they plan on stopping support for it soon. My computers are networked together so that I can share data between them when I need to.
I have absolutely no use for the masses of superfluous bloat-ware and AI that Microsoft is installing with its latest operating systems. I see no reason why I should be forced to scrap the hardware that I have, to replace it with the latest and greatest so I can add all the features that I will never use in Windows 11 and 12. In spite of all of the propaganda that Microsoft publicize about their great advances in computing, they have really added very little in the last 20 years that is of any real use to the average user, or even to the high-tech guys like us.
 

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joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
6,279
I still do most of my everyday computing stuff in XP, It works just fine, and I have had the Microsoft updates blocked ever since service pack 3. It is a nice, stable platform for predictable, everyday tekky use like drawing and printing circuits and hardware parts. I rarely get any hacking problems and when I do, they are very simple to eliminate. I do my banking and internet on a Windows 8 computer that has a good anti-virus software installed and updates blocked. It performs well at the tasks I use it for.
I have a Windows 10S laptop that I just use for programming micro-controllers. Every day I pray that Microsoft will not force an update on it that will make it un-usable. Luckily they plan on stopping support for it soon. My computers are networked together so that I can share data between them when I need to.
I have absolutely no use for the masses of superfluous bloat-ware and AI that Microsoft is installing with its latest operating systems. I see no reason why I should be forced to scrap the hardware that I have, to replace it with the latest and greatest so I can add all the features that I will never use in Windows 11 and 12. In spite of all of the propaganda that Microsoft publicize about their great advances in computing, they have really added very little in the last 20 years that is of any real use to the average user, or even to the high-tech guys like us.
You should consider running a modern Linux desktop, and XP in a virtual machine on top of that.

This is the way I do it. It makes it very easy to isolate XP from the universe while keep old applications useful.
 

KeithWalker

Joined Jul 10, 2017
3,607
Windows already thinks it knows what you want to do. Further baby-sitting by AI is not appealing.
I wonder how many users will abandon ship and go over to Linux?
I think most of them have already dumped their computers and do everything they need to on their phones. Companies who rely on staff using networked computers will definitely not be happy about having to update all of their hardware once again. The only people who would really gain anything from the newest operating systems are gamers and the hi-tech graphics artists who create the games.
 

visionofast

Joined Oct 17, 2018
106
Better to find an audience of generation z for this topic,
but hell...they've been already wrecked in social medias and can not hear you in a traditional forum.
 
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