Wow.Not a reason to use the abortion known as Windows10. It is a blight and plague on the computing landscape. It does not even qualify as an Operating System- it's just an App written in VB that blows chunks. Bloatware in the extreme. IMHO
You mean Microsoft Mathematics? I thought that was old, discontinued?To take it a bit farther... Check out Microsoft Mathematica for Win10. Their version of a full-blown mathematics program. I found it as good as several of the online apps I've used in the past and even better it's free.
There's some truth to that, I was never impressed with the IBM PC being based on the brain dead 8080 family and then the messed up 80286 and descendants.I would go even further.
Intel/MS/IBM set back the computer revolution about 25 years.
@ApacheKid- I wasn't stating it was. I just dislike windows 10 Sorry for derail.Wow.
My post was not a suggestion or recommendation about what operating system people should use. But as someone schooled in operating system design and development I must disagree with your characterization of it.
Gates actually basically stole the deal from Kildall and licensed QDOS so he had something to go to IBM with. Gates is not a techie, not really. He's just a guy at the right time, right place, and a willingness to screw others. He wouldn't have even had a mouse, if he hadn't basically done corporate espionage and gotten a foolish Apple tech to show him how to do it.There's some truth to that, I was never impressed with the IBM PC being based on the brain dead 8080 family and then the messed up 80286 and descendants.
Then there was Digital Research and Gary Kildall who in some way did too little to confront Microsoft at that time.
Remember it was Gates who actually recommended IBM speak to KIldall about an the CP/M OS. Kildall should have treated a deal with IBM as if it was winning the lotter, but he did not, Gates did however and somewhat reluctantly agreed to deliver an OS for IBM
Later on CP/M was available for the PC but sold at a stupid price, if it had sold for less than DOS who knows where we'd be today.
But all that is decades before Windows NT (which is what Windows 10 is really) was developed, architected by Dave Cutler the respected OS engineer from DEC who always worked very closely with hardware teams, that was a major shift and you'll note how no company at that time took the commercial risk to invest in a brand new OS design, not even Apple, only Microsoft made such a decision.
Well so far as I'm aware Gates does has some decent technical competencies (certainly compared to Jobs!), recall he coded a basic interpreter in 8080 machine code that was tested on an 8080 emulator running on a VAX (written by Paul Allen) and which ran first time on a real 8080 when they demo'd it for Altair over in New Mexico, that's a pretty impressive feat - it ran first time.Gates actually basically stole the deal from Kildall and licensed QDOS so he had something to go to IBM with. Gates is not a techie, not really. He's just a guy at the right time, right place, and a willingness to screw others. He wouldn't have even had a mouse, if he hadn't basically done corporate espionage and gotten a foolish Apple tech to show him how to do it.
Windows 10 is not Windows NT, it is a departure. Windows 7 was basically Windows NT. Windows10 came out console development with the XBOX One, where it was originally designed and then moved to the PC.
There was nothing wrong with the 8080, or the 80x86. I remember well when they came out, and they were far faster then other things around at the time. I was simulating DEC PDP8a/s systems on the 80386 for nuclear reactor robotics simulators at that time (for testing machine operations before conducting same in the reactor)
Don't dog intel. It shows a lack of understanding as to what Intel did at levels below the monitor which paved the way for multi-core and hyperthreading, long before anybody even knew what they were doing.
Well I never heard of "nutcracker" - I'll do some reading...Ooops, yes Mathematics and in 64 bit on Win10.
Not to spin this way far off-track but if Win10 is NT what happened to nutcracker? I ran a lot of process control systems on Venix and Xenix systems that got ported over to NT for a windowed desktop environment by running nutcracker. Which came with NT for running Unix applications under it.
Just another crazy example of the hundreds of idiotic things they did on the IBM PC.While on the subject, I could never understand the hack (twist) done on the IBM ribbon cable in order to address the floppy drives, the drives already had 1 of 4 selection built in without the need for the ribbon mangle.
The Heath-Zenith PC operating system did it the way it was intended, without the hack.
Intel was CISC at the time, Motorola was RISC. Different architectures for different reasons. Both worked well, and paged memory has been done on both architectures heavily in the beginning. As for why many makers preferred Motorola- it isn't what you think. They chose Motorola because RISC architectures have many, many more registers- made programming far easier.Well so far as I'm aware Gates does has some decent technical competencies (certainly compared to Jobs!), recall he coded a basic interpreter in 8080 machine code that was tested on an 8080 emulator running on a VAX (written by Paul Allen) and which ran first time on a real 8080 when they demo'd it for Altair over in New Mexico, that's a pretty impressive feat - it ran first time.
As for the mouse, Gates already responded to that years ago, he said that MS tried to steal a GUI from Xerox PARC but when they broke into the labs they were astonished to find that Steve Jobs had beaten them to it, the point being that Jobs stole it from Xerox, singling out Microsoft is inaccurate.
Windows 10 is Windows NT, you can see the full release history here, also if you look at an internals books for Windows 10 and the DDK for Windows 10, it is clear that this is just another release of the same core OS. Memory management, device driver model, scheduler, IO model, threading model - all the same - Win32 code for earlier versions of NT still runs in Win 10.
There were some real problems with the 8086 family, one was the segmented memory stuff, the other was that it was dated technology the Motorola 68000 came out about a year later and was a much cleaner instruction set, much better suited to supporting a real operating system. The x86 instruction set is horrible, I've written compilers for that family and the number of idiosyncrasies it has is mind boggling. Many operations and addressing modes can only be done with this or that register and the inflexibility is huge.
I have nothing bad to say about Intel but they did not know how to design computer CPUs back in the late 70s, Motorola did a much batter job as is evidenced by the fact that no company other than IBM (and clone firms) built machines on an Intel CPU. Silicon Graphics, Stratus, Apple MAC, Amiga, Sinclair, NEXTStep, etc etc etc all reached for the Motorola device over the Intel - this was for architectural reasons whereas IBM's choice of Intel was for political and non-technical reasons, the Intel CPUs were never chosen for technical superiority.
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