Wien Bridge Oscillator Frequency

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nathlansley

Joined Jan 16, 2023
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I understand, but in the real world component values, especially capacitors, have wide tolerances - you could spend time trying to get all the capacitors right but it's quicker and easier to change resistor values. You can fine tune resistor values relatively easily by selecting a resistor a little larger than required and putting resistors in parallel with it which have two orders of magnitude higher value. In the days when people wanted accurate restance decade boxes this is how it was done inexpensively. I'd also add, an engineer should always look for the simplest solution to a problem!
I understand the variance in a real world situation but surely the simulation should show ideal properties?
 

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nathlansley

Joined Jan 16, 2023
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hi nath,
It is the short fall in the 741 performance and possibly the model that's skewing your frequency.
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Cheers! When I’ve built this circuit in person the frequency is closer to the design frequency, would this just be due to component drift with tolerances then etc?
 

ericgibbs

Joined Jan 29, 2010
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hi nath,
Most LTS models are limited in the number of parameters used to calculate their operation, they are in fact, all approximations.

Try that last asc file I posted with AC2 signal,
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ericgibbs

Joined Jan 29, 2010
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hi nath,
It should read as AC1 not AC2, typo.:(

Looking at this marked up image, you can see it AC1 injects a 1Vac test sweep voltage into the feedback loop.
The .ac dec 100 100 100k sets this sweep to start 100Hz, stop 100kHz at a 100 sampling rate
The frequency response of the circuit is plotted, Gain versus Frequency

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ericgibbs

Joined Jan 29, 2010
21,448
hi nath,
For comparison of the LM741 and AD8030 OPA's.
Note, I have stepped the value of R1 and R2 from 10k to 10k5, in order to show the effect on the frequency.

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